On 2021-04-22 15:03:42-0500, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
> One other thing to keep in mind when considering an open access
> environment is it's only the default and doesn't have to be the final
> word. If you see a suspicious or malicious device, you can still force
> it back behind a captive portal to
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We discussed all those issues, and no doubt it opens a smelly can of worms.
Most
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> For sure, my le
. We tend to act like
the law defines what we must do. That's rarely the case.
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For sure, my lens is based on California law, however, the federal Fair Labor
Sta
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For sure, my lens is based on California law, however, the federal Fair Labor
Standards Act and state overtime and wage payment laws also come into play
here. Since nonexempt (hourly) workers have ready
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Jeff,
It makes sense that you think this is settled law, because in California it is
settled law. I don't recall all the details, but I was on a team involved
CAUSE.EDU>
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Well, I can tell you that is just not the reality. Sorry!
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Tim,
I would take a look at case law, where it was determined that an employer can
not expect an employee to use their own device without compensation. This has
resulted in two scenarios now
be forced.
Jeff
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Well, I can tell you that is just not the reality. Sorry
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On 2021-04-21 21:30:53+, Tim Cappalli wrote:
> I'd also like to address the comment about post-college experience.
>
&
should they) with a personal device they own.
Jeff
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onal device they own.
Jeff
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On 2021-04-21
y or enforcement mechanism.
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I keep
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I keep trying to reply
asking why we bother to
>> authenticate on the other SSID, but still no. It’s ironic that the people
>> who constantly stress the importance of customer experience and regularly
>> complain to me about the onboarding experience can’t be bothered to
>> consider obvious alternat
sider obvious alternatives. I wouldn’t be so disappointed if we
> discussed the pros and cons and they came to a different conclusion than I
> have, but it sounds so radical to them that they don’t even care to discuss
> it.
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> Chuck
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> *From:* The
IRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU"
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[Externe UL*]
Jennifer,
I would hope that the service itself has authorization/admittance controls vs
relying on the user’s device and/or the particular network the device is in for
permission
e wifi, I wonder
> if the pass-code water spigot is far off.
>
> Jeff
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Jeff
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On 2021-04-16 22:38:48+, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote:
> Educause did an extensive review of DMCA and concluded there is no
> need to "know with reasonable certainty who is using the network."
What about for CALEA? I found [this][1] page, but all the FAQs linked
are dead links.
[1]:
1:42 PM
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I agree that forcing client to jump through hoops unnecessarily is a Bad Thing.
Requiring someone to go through a simple self-service onboarding process (or
proceed as guest without access
at help.uic.edu to find IT services, Answers, and
Support!
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I’m all
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&g
of the corporatization of
academia…
-Brian
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> All good input- again, just thinking free here..
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is far off.
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All good input- again, just thinking free here... thanks
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All good input- again, just thinking free here... thanks for playing the game.
Lee Badman (mobile)
On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:07 AM, David Logan
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How would you limit local services like printing, screen mirroring, media
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