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On Mon Jun 27 18:46:25 2011 Central Time, Michael Balasko
michael.bala...@cityofhenderson.com wrote:
We used to call it IPX:)
Or AppleTalk. :)
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On Mon Jun 27 18:46:25 2011 Central Time, Michael Balasko
michael.bala
Like Bruce we also have a fairly large residential population, about 12,000+
students who live on campus and about 45 residence halls. Segregating each
building into a separate wireless vlan would be problematic, especially if we
have to further segregate by floors for some of our larger
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Would be nice if Apple updated Bonjour or ditched it and got with the fact
that enterprise networks are not built on Airports and single subnets...
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Garry Peirce wrote:
I'd agree that the protocol should be 'fixed' here and not re-design the
underlying network to support a particular service.
(note that other service discovery protocols have the same issue - SSDP,
WS-Discovery)
To that end, I was curious if
We used to call it IPX:)
Michael Balasko
CCSP,CCNP,MCSE,SCP
Network Specialist II
City of Henderson
240 Water St.
Henderson, Nv 89015
Chuck Norris has only one OSI layer - Physical
Wide Area Bonjour seems to be the solution.
of the
easy free tools they can easily use our network to exploit their peers.
John Kaftan
Infrastructure Manager
Utica College
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From: John Rodkey rod...@westmont.edu
Date: Fri, Jun 24, 2011 10:55 pm
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS devices on wireless
To: WIRELESS-LAN
Even on on our wired side we have multiple L2 networks in the same dorm
building. Our dorms are substantially bigger (800+ residents). When you
only have two /16's for the entire campus and a desire not to do NAT, you
have to make compromises.
In addition, most of our dorms are right next to
The issue here is that students are here to do academic work, and the
network needs to support that first. But I think that while they are doing
that academic work they are still... here. This is their home, and we can't
forget that. If it were just another corporate network we would do things
] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler
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Bruce,
I'm not sure I'm advocating large wireless networks at all... At the minimum,
ensuring a given user's devices
Amen to that!!
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Bruce is correct in that each residence hall could be placed on its own vlan,
thus enabling L2 protocols such as bonjour. I believe Bruce's argument is vlan
pooling allows for easier operational administration (e.g., can easily increase
capacity by adding to the pool).
Both are true
: Wednesday, 22 June, 2011 13:30:25
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS devices on wireless
Bruce,
You could, by any number of technical solutions, ensure that students within a
given residential space were all on the same L2 network. That is to say, if a
given residence hall is made up of 200
Bruce,
I'm not sure I'm advocating large wireless networks at all... At the minimum,
ensuring a given user's devices are all in the same L2 network doesn't change
your desire to use smaller /23 subnets, it only requires additional back-end
support to ensure those devices are placed together.
The BYOD campaign is largely geared towards enterprises with PKI
infrastructures wherein their corporate WLAN is using EAP-TLS with client
certificates. They are tackling the question of how do I get a client
certificate for my device? They're using the AOS 6.1 device fingerprinting to
send
Bruce,
You could, by any number of technical solutions, ensure that students within a
given residential space were all on the same L2 network. That is to say, if a
given residence hall is made up of 200 students, then it's not technically
difficult to ensure all the residential wireless
We currently allow Bonjour/mDNS on our production but have concerns about the
extra traffic in the fall.
We use vlan pools on each of our two SSIDs. Each SSID has 12 /23's configured
in the vlan pool.
Are other folks concerned about users connecting to other people's devices via
Bonjour? Or
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS devices on wireless
We currently allow Bonjour/mDNS on our production but have concerns about
the extra traffic in the fall.
We use vlan pools on each of our two SSIDs. Each SSID has 12 /23's
configured in the vlan pool.
Are other folks concerned about
on a
wireless deployment, we've turned it off. So finding each other via Bonjour
hasn't been an issue.
David Gillett
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From: Michael Dickson [mailto:mdick...@nic.umass.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 09:51
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS
On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote:
My belief is that a student should be able to have a similar experience when
in a residential hall as they would at home. That requires supporting
everything under the sun including Bonjour.
Unfortunately our enterprise network is
Mike,
I take it you are not able to reference housing data and then place all
students/student devices from the same residential hall into the same VLAN?
Jeff
Michael Dickson mdick...@nic.umass.edu 6/21/2011 11:18 AM
On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote:
My belief is that a
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS devices on wireless
We do not support bonjour
We do not support bonjour (multicast) on wireless. We have concerns
regarding network usage.
we have WPA2-Enterprise supporting TTLS and PEAPv0 for outer and
MS-CHAPv2 inner. Our initial testing found that Apple devices worked
better on TTLS.
We publish an iOS configuration profile that
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Hay
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:23 PM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS devices on wireless
Couple of questions for everyone about iOS devices on wireless.
1. Do you support/allow Bonjour over wireless so
On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Nathan Hay wrote:
Couple of questions for everyone about iOS devices on wireless.
1. Do you support/allow Bonjour over wireless so that iOS devices can talk
to each other? We currently do not, but we are thinking about enabling it
for the fall.
We do not
1. Yes we allow Bonjour over wireless, but we don't support it. As far as I
know we have never seen a support request related to it.
2. We use WPA2-Enterprise, 802.1x with Enterasys NAC and FreeRadius. The iOS
users get on very easily, it is usually only the Windows PCs we have any
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