Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Felix Windt
I’d pay a fair price for an easily administered solution that lets us roll out PPSK in the dorms and deploy broadcast/multicast domains scoped to specific users. We run eduroam and a completely open guest SSID. The open SSID has no captive portal, no click through terms of services, and no rest

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security)
Just a clarification. Android 10 generates a MAC address per ESSID for the lifetime of the OS instance. It does not change daily. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Felix Windt Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Friday

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Hurt,Trenton W.
https://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Wireless-Access/Android-Q-Randomized-MAC-Address-System-Default/td-p/526263 Trent Hurt University of Louisville From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security) S

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Enfield, Chuck
“We run eduroam and a completely open guest SSID. The open SSID has no captive portal, no click through terms of services, and no restrictions on Internet access for content or speed.” I’m jealous Felix. I made a strong push for this approach, but General Counsel stopped it. FWIW, I think the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Joseph Bernard
We try to steer eduroam capable devices off our guest network by blocking the ranges from authenticating to the main services portal. If students are trying to do work, I hope they aren’t reduced to a PS4 web browser. Thanks, Joseph B. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listser

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Michael Holden
Has anyone got the eduroam CAT working with EAP-TLS? Couldn’t find a good way for loading the certificates. May have missed the documentation for that portion. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Enfield, Chuck Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 8:42 AM To: WI

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
We also run a completely open SSID. There is a captive portal, but it's at the gateway rather than the wireless controller, so the same mechanism can also handle wired connections, and it's only used for enforcement. New visitors can get on the network without seeing the captive page. *> to get t

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Enfield, Chuck
The problem with out of band notifications is that you don’t know who is on an unauthenticated network. Certainly it’s more than just students. I’m not suggesting you should change to captive portal. While the statute is reasonably clear on how to qualify for the protections, it’s unclear how

RE: Samsung S8 DHCP Failure

2019-09-13 Thread King, Ronald A.
Thanks for the advice and help. We have tried importing the Root cert for WiFi with no luck. However we did find something interesting using packet captures. For AOS 6, during the DHCP negotiation, we found that both the discover and request messages from the S8 are received by the DHCP server b

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
“Their rationale is that to get the protections afforded to ISP’s under DMCA we need to inform users that they’re not allowed to share copyrighted materials and that their connection will be blocked if they do. For account holders we make them agree to these terms and more when they activate th

Re: Feasibility of an open SSID for student use

2019-09-13 Thread Green, William C
I won't argue for or against TLS or for other methods without understanding the context and use case… What fits the risk/benefit/cost profile for a particular community or subset? Observationally, eduroam reports show only 5% of visitors to our university utilizing TLS. We labbed up the MITM