I sent my email.
This test has been out for a long time. I'm thinking about highlighting
this test on my web site... rate limit a PC at home to the fastest plan I
have at the time, run those tests on a regular basis (by just keeping it
open), then take screen shots of it comparing connection
upnp is a huge security whole I'm told.
What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway?
Is there something I should be trying on the routers?
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday,
Oh brother. More hand wringing and money spending.
No answers to the problems.
sigh
Stupid government.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Opportunity
Hi Jeremy,
I'm must curious as to why you left wireless broadband out of your article?
We have customers getting 10 meg SYMMETRIC services out here for a whopping
$35 per month. Nearly all of my customers are in the 2 to 3 meg range for
that same price. Again, speeds are usually pretty
Hello
I need a new billing / CRM solution. What are all of you using at this
time and is it going to scale with you?
I dont mind if it is not all under one program. If I have to pay
someone to customize something I don't care I just need something that
works. WILL PAY FOR IT.
Some things
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Anthony Will wrote:
Some things it has to have: A system that integrates with a
bandwidth management and auto shutdown for delinquent accounts. Can
process a customer form lead to install and handle trouble tickets
afterward including installer scheduling. can actually
You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the
client's NATing routers.
I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From:
While I'm not yet using it, Freeside is quite impressive. I'd like to refer
you to Jeremy Davis of maximumtech.us for more information.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Anthony Will [EMAIL
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Mike Hammett wrote:
While I'm not yet using it, Freeside is quite impressive. I'd like
to refer you to Jeremy Davis of maximumtech.us for more
information.
While I agree that FS is a good application and can do PARTS of what
he asked for, it does not do all of it. Jeremy
We have been using Plat for years and I used it at a company I worked at
waay back for years (starting in '98). I like Plat, but we are
considering an alternative for a few reasons.
MSSQL support only
Client is Windows only
Provisioning is fired off from the client, not a backend script
upnp is a huge security whole I'm told.
What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway?
Is there something I should be trying on the routers?
Are all your custommers NAT'd or do you assign them public IP's?
Matt
My NAT customers work behind their own routers on the 360 and PS3.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Matt [EMAIL
Platypus
Been using it for years, does everything.
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And in the very near future PowerCode will also be able to integrate
coverage mapping should you decide to do so. John and I have it working but
it just needs a few things cleaned up to make it ready for prime time.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR2008120203
164_pf.html
New Coalition Drawing Up Nationwide Broadband Access Strategy
By Cecilia Kang
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 3, 2008; D03
President-elect Barack Obama has said getting affordable
Jeff,
Just to let you know, I am in Washington DC this week participating in the
events below. WISPA has signed on as a supporter of the Call to Action to
define the Nationwide Broadband Strategy. It was great to see all the
players of the Broadband Industry working together to attempt to bring
Nice work Rick and it's great to see WISPA take part.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:21 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
Jeff,
Just to let you know, I
Yeah, why build and provide it, when there is so much demand to sit back and
study it :-(
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday,
I can't say that I really care about my top posting, I actually prefer top
posting because I don't have to hunt for information... unless it is
addressing many points, which you did, I did not. The entire email fits on
my screen, so I saw it all. ;-) Here is my end of the bickering over
Others have had great success with PowerCode, but my experience is not.
When I was talking with them, they basically told me to purchase their BMU
or their software won't really do anything for me. Yes, this was a long
time ago in Internet time.
PowerCode without a BMU is just a billing and
And which telco is this going to bail out?Money from Congress to
industry = pay off Unions for votes.
We will never, ever, ever, ever qualify.
Another headliner article I read on this will redefine broadband as over
10 Meg.
Nothing like disqualifying almost the entire WISP industry...
My 5.8 customers can do 10+ megs...
The estimated throughput on the MTs is 30 to 31 megs. Real bandwidth tests
show 26 megs.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
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Advantage or Disadvantage?
Actually Powercode integrates with Imagestream routers.
Personally, I think the PowerCode/Imagestream platform was probably the best
value proposition on the market for a solution to manage WISPs that was
commercially available and complete.
Something someone should
Thats an unfair statement.
Yes, I agree, without a BMU, it does not unlease the power of Powercode.
However, Powercode without a BMU, is still much more than a
billing/ticketing system.
I'm not a PowerCode expert, so I am in no way the right person to defend the
product, or report its
They are not calling for defining the max capacity of a technology.
They are calling for defining the speed that you can make available to every
end user.
10mbps would call every 900Mhz or Whitespace single channel WISP NOT
broadband.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed
I agree, and one of my concerns with the coalition, is that defining
broadband as 10mbps would be bad for WISPs.
Rick is aware of these concerns. Please recognize that being a member of teh
Coalition does not mean we endorse all their initial ideas for policies.
It simply means we endorse the
Josh Luthman wrote:
My 5.8 customers can do 10+ megs...
The estimated throughput on the MTs is 30 to 31 megs. Real bandwidth tests
show 26 megs.
So do you deploy one MT for each customer or do you share that 26 Mb
between all of your customers on that one access point?
Josh
That is a TERRIBLE idea.
To chop our noses off for the chance to wallow at the DC trough? Please.
It would be far more in our favor if we could get better tax treatment on
capital investment, if there were easier rules to deal with trading shares
of our companies to investors, if we had
Well if you look at this article looks like most people are getting less
than a meg anyways:
http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a%253D234501,00.asp
Makes me wonder how many DSL and Cable shops wouldn't be broadband either
under the 10Mb rule even in Metro areas (around my area I don't
So can mine. But not when I have 40-60 clients on one 5 ghz AP.I sell
WHAT I CAN DELIVER and there's nowhere near enough spectrum available to
limit your client numbers per AP to be able to reliably do 10M at least 23.5
hours per day to any client. When the typical client can't get at
Unless Jeremy has done some extra work with FS, It does not fulfill
these CRM requirements.
This is doable in freeside with the integrated ticketing system. We've done
things like take leads from the website via a form which loads a ticket up in
the ticket system from there it is just a
If you don't choose Freeside, I consider Platypus the next best option.
Sincerely,
Jeremy Davis, CEO
Maximum Technologies, LLC
Office 318.303.4725
www.maximumtech.us
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday,
While you guys are on the topic could I also ask you to look at our
offering?
We've been selling hot spot systems for the hospitality industry since 2004
but over the past year have started putting together a package for WISPs.
We've branded the WISP solution Avansu (http://www.avansu.com).
UDP 88
UDP and TCP 3074
those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox
360. 360 will need a static IP.
we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to
192.168.200.50/24
net = wpci1
client = ether1
forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88
The article represents thoughts of individual members of this group in its
initial meeting. I see trouble with some of the things noted. Especially
things like saying we now acknowledge there is a broadband problem. I did
not like the definition of broadband as 10 megabit or more either. This is
Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on the
Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a lot
of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units
which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before.
Josh
amen
We love Plat.
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system
Platypus
Been using it for years, does everything.
PC is much more spendy than Plat. That is one of the reasons we did not go
with PC.
- Original Message -
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system
Well, yeah. So who would be pushing the broadband is above 10 meg canard
anyway? I know of no present common internet application that needs in
excess of 3mbit to work well. Perhaps as you suggested, the speed was
chosen as a specific elimenation of most wireless and copper based DSL.
For
Each customer has an MT - capable of 26mbps to their home. Each tower has a
Redline to it, throughput as high as the key purchased (54 megs).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent
We're all taxpayers, get off my back
already!
I'm a little confused on your response.
Nobody is on your back. We are just discussing possible point of views on
Broadband policy.
I'm also not exactly clear what you are calling the terrible idea.
Joining the NBS table for debate?
Raising
Well thats kind of the point of consumer advocates. Consumer advocates are
not against WISPs.
They are against Cable Cos that deliver less bandwdith than they are capable
of delivering to the public.
If Broadband monoploies put less money in stock holder's pockets, and more
money into
So how many of your customers can you serve 26 Mb to SIMULTANEOUSLY
from the same AP? It sounds like you are saying that you can serve all
of them 26 Mb simultaneously.
Josh Luthman wrote:
Each customer has an MT - capable of 26mbps to their home. Each tower has a
Redline to it,
With any internet technology, aggregation is happening somewhere. DSL you have
a pipe to the C.O. but then there may be limited overhead. Cable modems
aggregate in various branches of their distribution. Wireless aggregates at
the AP. Satellite... big AP in the sky. Even FTTH has shared
On the plus side, it might mean that a whole bunch of ISPs won't be covered
under CALEA. :-)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
I've hear that Powercode is changing owners? Anybody have the skinny on
that?
We're seeing some really cool things coming from PC and
WirelessMapping.com... Check out the link below. The Google map overlay of
our coverage gets populated with little google tear drops where we have
customers and
I have read many post on this list about how much bandwidth different
WISP offer. I want to discuss that as well as the recommended equipment
that is so often discussed on this list.
I am a startup. Little to no startup capital. I had to pinch each
penny to get as much as possible out of
Good one Steve !! I want to know too !
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Providing High Speed Broadband
to Rural Central California
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, December 03,
You are doing it. Just keep bootstrapping. Once you get 1000 subscribers
things will be a bit better.
- Original Message -
From: Steve Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Client Speeds
I have
Mark,
Comments inline:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is a TERRIBLE idea.
I don't see obtaining a seat at the table which is defining future policy
for broadband in the US a terrible idea. Not participating would do our
industry much more disservice than participating.
To chop our
I just stumbled across this web page and a link to a report about the state
of the WISP industry in California. The author conducted a very good survey
of WISP's and summarized the industry very well. Thought you might like a
look at the results. Much of this information will not be news to you,
Honestly, the fastest way to grow is to lease your CPE. Then the
install fee covers your cost on every install, and you aren't "upside
down" on every new customer.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
You are doing it. Just keep bootstrapping. Once you get 1000 subscribers
things
I don't think that has been as prevalent of an issue over the past 2 years
or so.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:15 PM
To:
I didn't get that at all.
It seems as though when anyone on this list suggests going faster than 2
megabits, they get beat up. Sorry, Charlie, BA-II was outdated long ago.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, December
I spoke with a doctor last week who's son has gone through 4 in the last
year. May be just that one case, though.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry
I've only used 5 GHz MT, but I don't have a problem with someone pulling 20+
megs... now I don't have that much upstream, but the network can do it.
I'm assuming that you are using cards in B mode if you can only get 3.5
mbit. A lot of people are against G mode, but I don't' think it's that
XR5's are Prism for my APs
R52's are Atheros for my CPEs
I have not heard of any chipset differences in performance - anyone else
have this?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent
Dear Mike,
You miss the point and possibly so does Josh. Because an AP can deliver
x amount of throughput during a speed test between two location does
not mean that the same AP can deliver that amount of throughput to all
the customers simultaneously. The AP's throughput is shared between all
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- Original Message -
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
We're all taxpayers, get off my back
already!
I'm a
But there's no reason why consumers should be FORCED to buy that. Public
financing does not reduce cost, it increases it by subsidizing inefficiency
and overbuilding and hides the real cost.
Don't think that they get it cheap. They pay far more than we do, even if
the monthly bill shows a
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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
Mark,
Comments inline:
To chop our noses off for the chance
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