Well if you look at this article looks like most people are getting less than a meg anyways: http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a%253D234501,00.asp
Makes me wonder how many DSL and Cable shops wouldn't be broadband either under the 10Mb rule.... even in Metro areas (around my area I don't think Comcast and Qwest quite get there consistently... maybe in new neighborhoods) Daniel White 3-dB Networks > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:08 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > > That is a TERRIBLE idea. > > To chop our noses off for the chance to wallow at the DC trough? Please. > > It would be far more in our favor if we could get better tax treatment on > capital investment, if there were easier rules to deal with trading shares > of our companies to investors, if we had gaurantees that we would not be > mandated to do anything expensive, so we could have some kind of > confidence > in our business models... > > Those are FAR more conducive to the success of all of us, than to put a > majority of us outside the standard of 'broadband' in return for a handful > sucking at the taxpayer teat in DC - We're all taxpayers, get off my back > already! > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > <insert witty tagline here> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > > > >I agree, and one of my concerns with the coalition, is that defining > > broadband as 10mbps would be bad for WISPs. > > Rick is aware of these concerns. Please recognize that being a member of > > teh > > Coalition does not mean we endorse all their initial ideas for policies. > > It simply means we endorse the intent of the group, to work togeather to > > compromise and debate the best national broadband policy. > > WISPA being a member of the group is what allows WISPA to influence and > > educate the group on WISPs, and one issue to heavilly push influence, is > > to > > change their viewpoint on the minimum speed qualified as Broadband. > 10mbps > > is way to high, and if that position stayed long term, I'd probably > > eventually have to drop endorsement for the group. > > But I believe raising teh requirement for "broadband" above DSL typical > > speed is critical, in order to help get WISP's grants and and Tax > > incentives. > > If we can disqualify typical DSL as Broadband (sub 3 mbps), it opens the > > door wide open to call so many more markets "underserved" and worthy to > > invest in WISP's deployment of such markets. > > > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > > > > > >> And which telco is this going to bail out? Money from Congress to > >> industry = pay off Unions for votes. > >> > >> We will never, ever, ever, ever qualify. > >> > >> Another headliner article I read on this will redefine "broadband" as > >> over > >> 10 Meg. > >> > >> Nothing like disqualifying almost the entire WISP industry... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> <insert witty tagline here> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:20 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > >> > >> > >>> Jeff, > >>> > >>> Just to let you know, I am in Washington DC this week participating in > >>> the > >>> events below. WISPA has signed on as a supporter of the Call to > Action > >>> to > >>> define the Nationwide Broadband Strategy. It was great to see all the > >>> players of the Broadband Industry working together to attempt to bring > >>> the > >>> US back up to the top of the Broadband Access ladder. It will be a > busy > >>> three months while this strategy is defined and presented to the Obama > >>> Administration. > >>> > >>> Respectfully, > >>> > >>> Rick Harnish > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > >>> Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick > >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:21 PM > >>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>> Subject: [WISPA] Article > >>> > >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR2008120203 > >>> 164_pf.html > >>> > >>> New Coalition Drawing Up Nationwide Broadband Access Strategy > >>> > >>> By Cecilia Kang > >>> Washington Post Staff Writer > >>> Wednesday, December 3, 2008; D03 > >>> > >>> President-elect Barack Obama has said getting affordable high-speed > >>> Internet > >>> service to every American home would create jobs, fuel economic growth > >>> and > >>> spark innovation. Yesterday, representatives from technology and > >>> telecommunications companies, labor unions and public interest groups > >>> frequently at odds with one another agreed to provide the next > president > >>> with a roadmap for how to accomplish those goals. > >>> > >>> That map could include tax breaks, low-interest loans, subsidies and > >>> public-private partnerships to encourage more investments in upgrading > >>> and > >>> building out high-speed networks, representatives from Google, AT&T > and > >>> public interest group Free Press said during a panel discussion on > >>> broadband > >>> policy that also served as a coming-out party for their newly formed > >>> coalition. > >>> > >>> The details of how to meet those goals still must be worked out by the > >>> group, whose aim is to bring more affordable high-speed Internet > access > >>> to > >>> every consumer. > >>> > >>> Many of the group members have been at odds with each other on whether > >>> the > >>> government should set limits on how much spectrum a company can hold, > >>> the > >>> use of unlicensed devices on fallow broadcast airwaves and net > >>> neutrality -- > >>> the notion that network operators should be prevented from blocking or > >>> slowing Internet traffic. The formation of the group is an effort to > >>> move > >>> beyond their differences. > >>> > >>> "The coalition is a positive in that it demonstrates we agree that we > >>> have > >>> a > >>> broadband problem, which not everyone was willing to admit to two > years > >>> ago," said Ben Scott, policy director at Free Press and a member of > the > >>> group. "The key is whether we'll see this group produce policy > solutions > >>> that will require difficult choices." > >>> > >>> At stake is the nation's ability to compete technologically and > >>> economically, the group said. The United States has dropped from the > top > >>> 10 > >>> nations for broadband access, speeds and price in the last several > >>> years. > >>> The coalition is pushing for a federal plan that would provide access > to > >>> high-speed Internet service, much as the government did with > >>> electricity, > >>> roads and phone service. > >>> > >>> Obama famously used the Internet for outreach during his campaign and > >>> received 370,000 donations online. He's proposed using blogs, social > >>> networking tools and community Web pages known as wikis to connect > >>> citizens > >>> to government agencies. And Obama has argued for massive upgrades to > >>> technology infrastructure such as high-speed, or broadband, Internet. > >>> > >>> So far the coalition's plans to increase broadband usage mirrors > Obama's > >>> plan, but there could be disagreement over deployment, analysts said. > >>> > >>> Communications Workers of America President Larry Cohen said the union > >>> supports a proposal by Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.) to > increase > >>> definitions for broadband to 10 megabits per second for downloads by > >>> 2010. > >>> The current definition for broadband speed in the United States is 768 > >>> kilobits per second downstream, which is far below standards in many > >>> other > >>> nations. > >>> > >>> Achieving that goal at prices acceptable to consumers, however, would > be > >>> expensive for telecom and cable network operators. Some in the > coalition > >>> could push for laws that would achieve lower prices and higher speeds > >>> through more wireless and telecom competitors, but that could cause > >>> further > >>> disagreement among members, Scott said. > >>> > >>> Some have already suggested requesting funds from the federal economic > >>> stimulus plan for broadband deployment. Yesterday, an aide to House > >>> Speaker > >>> Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Pelosi was in favor of that idea. > >>> > >>> AT&T chief lobbyist Jim Cicconi said the company has moved closer to > the > >>> view of public interest groups and Google that the Web should be open > >>> for > >>> all users without discrimination of technology and content on their > >>> network. > >>> But unlike Free Press and consumer groups, AT&T opposes new laws or > >>> rules > >>> on > >>> net neutrality, saying Federal Communications Commission rules are > >>> sufficient, and any violation should be handled on a case-by-case > basis. > >>> > >>> "There will be significant outstanding debates that will be very tough > >>> and > >>> there will still be daylight between the groups on many, many issues," > >>> said > >>> Rebecca Arbogast, an analyst at investment firm Stifel Nicolaus. "But > >>> both > >>> sides are in a phase right now where they are emphasizing how much > they > >>> share in terms of their views on what is an appropriate framework for > >>> looking at this issue." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Jeff Broadwick > >>> Sales Manager, ImageStream > >>> 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) > >>> +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) > >>> +1 574-935-8488 (Fax) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > >>> ---- > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > >>> ---- > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > >>> WISPA Wants You! 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