Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mark McElvy
ShowMe Power -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you

[WISPA] eratic ethernet connection

2008-12-18 Thread Mark McElvy
I have a new WAN connection, it is a Long range Ethernet connection. It is being connected to a RB532 Mikrotik v2.9.46 router. When I do bandwidth tests through this connection, it is very erratic. If I connect the circuit directly to a PC I get a nice smooth throughput. I also tried connecting

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to compile, and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions). I'll start a new thread. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brian

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Rick Harnish
We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance. Network Innovations out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells bandwidth. Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
How about a composite fiber map? - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of

[WISPA] Transit and transport providers list

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Brian Webster suggested that we make a list (posted to the WISPA site) of bandwidth carriers. I'd be happy to help on this effort, but I certainly don't have the time (or the programming skills) to dedicate to make it what I would like to see. I'm thinking as grand as type in a ZIP code and it

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased anything). They are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few carriers and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry need to get away from) or services in NFL markets. They would have been of

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
If someone can feed me data that is not protected by an NDA I would gladly do that. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:11 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
I can create a Google Map interface with address lookup capability and plot any address lists for POP's and such that people can feed me. This data needs to not be under an NDA however and the map would have to be on a public portion of a web site (Maybe the WISPA site). I can host it if there are

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Matt Liotta
Resellers play an important role in the overall ecosystem. However, as an industry we would be far better off if we bought from each other than from our competition. I believe that had CLECs worked with each other as opposed to trying to steal each other customers they might have made a

Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, come to think about it... I could just join monthly for a month or two until I had the funds for an annual membership. If the board would like, I could work my way through my head thinking of companies and seeking out contacts, requesting whatever information Brian needs to make this a

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I see no reason to restrict this list to just L3, GLBX, Cogent, etc., but any company willing to sell bandwidth for wholesale use... including each other. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-18 Thread Matt
It is a bridge. I was actually thinking it would be the other wat around - but I guess not. Move to PPPoE with Mikrotik and would be a lot easier. http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/MUM_CALEA.pdf Cannot find 2008 Chicago slide. http://www.wispa.org/calea/WCS/WISPA-CS-IPNA-2.0.pdf

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Matt, That is what I am doing now, however, I still have customers on Trango that I need to support between now and when they're on MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,

Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list

2008-12-18 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Is the public portion of the website a requirement of Google Maps? or something else? ryan Brian Webster wrote: I can create a Google Map interface with address lookup capability and plot any address lists for POP's and such that people can feed me. This data needs to not be under an NDA

Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
It's the Google Maps requirement. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott [mailto:rsp...@cspott.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:53 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list Is

[WISPA] Anyone dumping SR9's?

2008-12-18 Thread reader
I've got a need for a single SR9.This is a freebie I'm doing for someone. The new SR9 I bought was defective, and my last remaining reserve also failed... I know lotsa folks are trading out SR9's for Xr9's. I have very few SR9's deployed and I'm using only XR9's now, but for this

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
There is tons of Fiber all over the place. Its just supply is controlled like the Diamond industry to keep the price high. The question is Can you get access to it at the right price? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
There is some of that yes, but it's a lot more available and affordably available than one might think. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Matt
How about a composite fiber map? Chuck, BTW: How did you get your gigabit Level3 connection? At least I think I remember you saying you have a gigabit to Level3. Did they have a fiber near you or something? Is the pricing super, good or just decent? Is it on a Qwest loop or anything like

[WISPA] WISP Directory map update with land area calculations

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
Matt sent me an updated list of zip codes and two other WISP's had me add their network footprint to this version of the map. Land area covered now is 460,627 square miles. View the map here : http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm This map is still not ready for production, just

[WISPA] RIP

2008-12-18 Thread RickG
Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] RIP

2008-12-18 Thread Josh Luthman
OSPF is by far superior I think... On 12/19/08, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] WISP Directory map update with land area calculations

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Updated my info. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:50 PM To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] RIP

2008-12-18 Thread George Rogato
I will see your OSPF and raise it with an OLSR Actually we also have some ospf. George Josh Luthman wrote: OSPF is by far superior I think... On 12/19/08, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG

Re: [WISPA] RIP

2008-12-18 Thread eje
Good to talk with legacy products. For a new network use OSPF. /Eje --Original Message-- From: RickG Sender: To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RIP Sent: Dec 18, 2008 23:13 Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG

Re: [WISPA] RIP

2008-12-18 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 22:27 -0800, George Rogato wrote: I will see your OSPF and raise it with an OLSR OLSR is designed for mesh networks. It doesn't really apply to this particular question. Not to mention, OLSR is still pretty experimental. --

Re: [WISPA] RIP

2008-12-18 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 00:13 -0500, RickG wrote: Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? If you wish to build a NEW dynamic routing based network, use OSPF if you can. If you are integrating a legacy network that is already running RIP, then it works, but there's a reason that NEW dynamic routing