Re: [WISPA] Need Media converters

If at only 100mbps, Intellinet has a very reliable low cost Media converter. (under $100) If needing 100-1000mb, we use CTC. Model FIB1-1000E (under $150) I don't think any of these are as low as $50, but still fairly priced. (dont have exact price handy) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc I

Re: [WISPA] NS-LOCO2 on Dish

Yes, I'm waiting for these to come out as well, securalign is supposed to be releasing Nanostation specific dishes. Regards Michael Baird > Could not get a connection through a couple of trees with the bare LOCO - > signal was ~ -90. > > Put it on a Securalign dish for grins and now have -71dB.

Re: [WISPA] NS-LOCO2 on Dish

RF Antenna Design have 2 models that work for both NanoStation and Loco's. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael Baird Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:45:21 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS-LOCO2 on Dish Yes, I'm waiting for these to come ou

Re: [WISPA] Need Media converters

The ones we have in stock are hardended industrial, but they are a bit more than 50 bucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:05 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA Genera

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

Ever wondered why tcp troughput is so low vs udp on this mimo units? Cross pol interference ... that's why Try to run 2 mikrotik mimo setups on the same site then report back Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Or

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

Have two Have 4 on one tower, 2 in and 2 out, around 52-55meg tcp thoughput. But we are NOT using cross pol. Each link in the same direction uses both vertical or both horizontals on the two dual pols. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

I'm not running 2 MIMO, but we are running 1 R5N MIMO and 1 XR5 link pointing from/to the same location. I'm able to keep them from interfering, and would only guess that we could keep 2 MIMO's from interfering. There's enough 5Ghz frequency to not interfere. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

It's a MIMO 2x2 with Mimo 2x2 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:59

[WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

Does anyone know of good "ruggedized" enclosures that a mtk 433ah and 411 will fit in. We are looking for temperature and physically rugged as it will be deployed several times in military environment. Thanks! Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.net ---

[WISPA] Metered Wideband

Thought this might open up some debate on what 'broadband' services should look like ... Kevin http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=180634&site=cdn&; Rogers Rolls With Metered Wideband August 18, 2009 | Jeff Baumgartner

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

Does it have to be temperature controlled? I find that the no-brand chinese enclosures work here in Ohio - ranging from 110 to -10. The worst scenario they hold up well against is the 110 early afternoons to 60 night times and back - that killed the PacWireless enclosures. Josh Luthman Office: 9

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

The new ones I've been getting from Butch are big enough and are pretty strong. Nice weather proof gasket too. In fact they are so tough that you have to drill out the knock outs! sigh We went with these boxes so that we can just swap boards in the future. We're using bulk head n-f/f gender b

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

Ubiquiti claims 150 megs of TCP/IP throughput, which is possible if you add upload and download as is common in the unlicensed world. I couldn't tell from any documentation whether they were 20 MHz or 40 MHz. The FCC certification wasn't overly clear, but I think it can do both. I don't see any

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

I don't see it being any worse in terms of advertised mb/s/user than the WiMAX everyone has fallen in love with. 200 people on an 18 meg sector? Hardly. Maybe 30. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Metered Wideband

Have they really got anywhere passing a law prohibiting bit-caps? Perhaps it should ammended to prohibit charging per minute on cellphones? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

We've been using the small pacific wireless boxes with the hinged lid for our 411 boards. Cast aluminum. I've never had any heat issues from them but we're in Ohio, not that bad for heat. Could always attach a heat sink to the rear of it on the outside I bet. I've been looking for a good box

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

> Ubiquiti claims 150 megs of TCP/IP throughput, which is possible if you add > upload and download as is common in the unlicensed world. > > I couldn't tell from any documentation whether they were 20 MHz or 40 MHz. > The FCC certification wasn't overly clear, but I think it can do both. It can d

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

I am in Ohio too. I find that in places where the temperature drops 50 degrees in 12 hours the gasket doesn't hold up at all. One that stands out is on the side of a hotel - blazing sun to dark shadow. I have taken the boxes, cleaned them out, put in new equipment and then coax seal the top edge

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/product_info.php?products_id=45&osCsid=ad9777 fde459789ace53e59bc55a2261 This is a decent die cast enclosure. Scott -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

Pretty sure that's the same one I linked, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

For temperature it needs to be able to keep the board inside less than 140 f with outside temps that get up to 115-120 f. Thanks, Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 1

Re: [WISPA] Metered Wideband

I love the line that says, "metered broadband policies have been heavily criticized in the U.S., resulting in the introduction of legislation that aims to clamp down on such efforts.". Just what makes Broadband any different than Cellular Phones, Electricity and Natural Gas? Where does an

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

That is almost going to require at least a fan. I like the NEMA 3R boxes from Saginaw Control and Engineering http://www.saginawcontrol.com/. Hinged cover. I put a piece of DIN rail on the backplate and mount the boards on a smaller backplate. Attach DIN endplates to backplate with the board

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

There's 250 MHz available in mid 5 GHz. It can easily do 10 miles on a PtP. With bigger dishes, it can obviously go farther. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Rubens Kuhl" Sent: Wednesday, Augus

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

There is an FCC EIRP maximum of 30 dB in 5.4 GHz that will limit the range of any radio legally operating in this band. - Original Message - From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List Sent: Wed Aug 19 12:47:59 2009 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP There's 250 MHz availabl

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

Looks like nice boxes. Time to get out the old credit card Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ruggediz

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

What size pac wireless box were you using that had the issues and did it have the hinged cover? We use the smaller ones for the 411 board with the hinged cover with no trouble but from looking at it, the gasket isn't much there for protection. If it was a box with no hinge, just screwed on do you

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

The smaller ones (we used rb532) both hinged and 8 screw (man did these suck). I personally have never seen an 8 screw box leak (I have seen the hinged one leak). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossib

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

I know. 2' dishes will do 10 miles. 3' does 15 miles. 4' does 20 miles. 6' does 30 miles. All within 30 dB EIRP. Obviously radio\antenna certification limits apply. I figured a PtP radio salesman would have known that. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ic

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

Makes perfect sense to me. I shall get the ease of the hinge outta my mind and carry the battery operated screw-gun to all places near and far from now on. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wed

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

The box I recommended you can use a nut driver or phillips BUT older boxes need an alan wrench (or patience + vice grips). The ones that use an alan wrench seem to have disappeared though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you ha

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

How is the size of the dish going to help if the EIRP is capped at 30dB? This band does not following the same PTP rules as 5.7. Freespace loss is going to increase but the 30dB EIRP is constant. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

I've seen the 8 screw leak when the cover plate is clamped down it will leave a depression in the gasket. If you ever have to open it up, the gasket does not release, and the depression remains. Tightened it back down, had to revisit the site 2 weeks later, water got in and touched the routerboar

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

You decrease the radio output. Any good radio can do negative dB. 24 dB radio + 6 dBi omni = 30 dB EIRP 2 dB radio + 28 dBi 2' antenna = 30 dB EIRP -7 dB radio + 37 dBi 6' antenna = 30 dB EIRP It's still only 30 dB you say? Well, the receive antenna is 9 dB more, giving you overall 9 dB more

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

Might help reduce off-angle noise. Other than that, not much. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richardson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP > How is the size of the dish going to help if the EIRP is capped at

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

Mike, not one of those choices is possible. But the bullet 5m can not have the power turned down below 6dbm output. This will limit your choice to exclude the 2' dishes. UBNT-Mike.Ford says the power reduction isn't possible. http://www.ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14053&highlight= (If they

Re: [WISPA] Possible Customer

Hiya, Sorry that I can't help you either Chuck. Can anyone help a stranded motorist? marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy To: cben...@skynetbb.com Cc: Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: RE: Possible Customer Chuck, I

[WISPA] We've got Cash for Clunkers - how about Dollars for Dialup

My suggestion for Phase II of the Broadband Stimulus Program: http://tinyurl.com/kmd4hn Other potential program titles: Money for Modems? Bucks for Broadband? Wampum for Wireless? Any other ideas? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com --

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

Enclosures are like vehicles, everyone has their favorite lol I hate the ones you suggested below and like the ones you had to coax seal :) (that stuff is supreme nasty in clothes, carpet etc especially after it gets hot and sticky) You can eliminate the gasket problems (depending on the exac

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

The hardware rusts terribly and the gasket is a pain to work with -- in my experience. I don't know how you guys can even get the gasket in place without some glue or something while the thing is mounted, hard enough in the office. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Or

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures mikrotik

Drill a hole in the bottom, if water gets in it goes back out no biggie usually... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Robert West" > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:40 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ruggedized

Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP

Uh, duh. Wasn't factoring in the increased Rx gain. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP You decrease the

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

Holes small enough to drain and keep the bugs out are good. I prefer fixing the problem from the get go, when possible. On 8/19/09, Scott Carullo wrote: > > The hardware rusts terribly and the gasket is a pain to work with -- in my > experience. I don't know how you guys can even get the gasket

Re: [WISPA] We've got Cash for Clunkers - how about Dollars for Dialup

Bucks for Baud? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:33 PM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] We've got Cash for Clunkers - how about Dol

Re: [WISPA] We've got Cash for Clunkers - how about Dollars for Dialup

How about Debt for Dummies? Or Taxes for Turkeys. Maybe Stimulus for Suckers? -RickG On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > My suggestion for Phase II of the Broadband Stimulus Program: > > http://tinyurl.com/kmd4hn > > Other potential program titles: > > Money for Modems? >

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

See my other response regarding the longevity of this box. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

Appears to be the one that Ligowave/Deliberant used for some products. When it is new, it is a really nice box, but look at one that has been on a tower for a few months. It rusts around the screws, the paint gets flaky and horrible after even 6 months outside and the gasket either falls out or ge

Re: [WISPA] ruggedized enclosures Mikrotik

I've got a few I just revisited due to a lightning storm that have been in use for over a year, and didn't have that issue. I had some minor paint chipping around the hinge but that is all. I even had to open them upside down and the gasket stayed intact the whole time. One thing I do, is I put

Re: [WISPA] We've got Cash for Clunkers - how about Dollars for Dialup

Take my dialup, please! I'd gladly trade that in, in a big hurry! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] We've got Cash for