Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don’t! Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no matter if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already. Too many people out to gotcha. And the ones who ask to see our liability insurance before

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
When the house finally falls down, the chimney and mount will still be standing! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Rick - MT CPE can be plug and play. Create a template, then copy and paste. Keep in mind they're more costly. Nanostations work well even at -85 and -95 noise floor in my experience, that's why I like them. Tranzeos had the water problem for me, not Nanostations. On 8/28/09, RickG

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Steve Barnes
I agree, I will never again install on a roof. That cost me money once, not again. Can't even tell you how many homeowners have thanked us for not installing on the roof. They hate their satellite dish being up there and are willing to pay extra for anything to keep it off the roof. What I

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-28 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Interesting analogies on both parts. My grandmother was a farmer. As I was growing up, one summer visiting my grandmother, one of the sows birthed a pig that had no tail and she would not suckle it because of this fact, so I took care of it and of course named it no tail...the next summer I

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-28 Thread Blake Bowers
The public safety portion of this proposal should have been pushed better if you wanted more support. All we saw was one company that is part of the state proposal saying we need your support and no mention of the benefits to our rural public safety groups. That was in a blast message that went

[WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Cameron Kilton
I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage.

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-28 Thread Scott Parsons
IF you need to power 48V equipment from a 12 or 24V battery system take a look at these 9-36V input 48V output DCDC converters/POE inserters. It is much more efficient than going the inverter to 120VAC and back to 48VDC route. They supply 30W so should power most 48V equipment.

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
What's so bad about brick? I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor). 've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage. On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I agree, I will never again install on a roof. That cost me money

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Jack Unger
I don't know what type of network you have deployed (are you serving laptops directly?) but your method should work OK if a) You do 2-way throughput testing to/from the mobile setup. b) You use a CPE that's the same as your normal CPE. c) You use an antenna that is equivalent to your normal

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-28 Thread RickG
I wasnt out to create an argument thread. My last 2 cents: Free has created an entitlement mentality in this country and now we cant pay for it. Where is the money coming from? Can we, our children, our grandchildren afford Trillion dollar budget deficits? As far as free - tell that to our

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Brian Webster
It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
The biggest problem with your idea will be the fact you're on the ground - not going to work too well for 2.4 and 5.x. 900 will be better, but not ideal. The better part of what you're doing is if you see a -75 somewhere, then the houses adjacent are going to be greater to or equal! Starting

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-28 Thread St. Louis Broadband
I agree with your comments. That is why we felt it important to apply and try to persuade these monies to be used responsibly, rather than squandered. Victoria -Original Message- From: RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:29 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only option. We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that. Never had a leak. People have been mounting things on roofs for a very very long time. As for brick, we use GOOD plastic anchors

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
But I have far more hogs than there are WISPs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:06 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA]

[WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread St. Louis Broadband
The new version would allow the president to declare a cybersecurity emergency relating to non-governmental computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for cybersecurity professionals, and a requirement

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I can see it now, they will respond with free anti-virus software being bundled with those AOL disks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread jp
No, you'll have some geek with a badge threatening to shut your WISP down, just for national security practice because you didn't stoke his ego. Single guys who don't mind traveling and couldn't hold a steady job in the business or academic world, or failed the skills tests to be a traditional

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Thanks for nothing government... On 8/28/09, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: No, you'll have some geek with a badge threatening to shut your WISP down, just for national security practice because you didn't stoke his ego. Single guys who don't mind traveling and couldn't hold a steady job

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
I knew it! That Geek Squad really IS a secret arm of the government! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread jp
I just read up on this and wrote to my senator Snowe, a cosponsor. Feel free to do the same and creatively plagiarize as needed. I wrote: I have read that you are a cosponsor of s773 regarding cybersecurity. I am a constituent who has consistently voted for you. My small business, Midcoast

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Gary Garrett
OMG I think I am going to throw up. Bend over boys we want to look up inside your network. Think TSA for the Internet instead of for airports. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
Oh, and I can just imagine the quality of people who would be picked for investigation and enforcement. A group of people making better than minimum wage, computer experience is that their cousin once gave them a computer. Give them a badge and some power.. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Cameron Kilton
I'm very well aware that I will be doing this signal testing from the ground and I plan to due most if not all with 900mhz testing. I'm looking for a VERY rough mapping on real world testing. I've used other programs where you input radio data and it will estimate coverage, which is neat, but I

[WISPA] Weird Request: Looking for the old YDI 180degree H-pol sectors

2009-08-28 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have a couple of sites that I need to sectorize and am looking for a couple of 180degree H-pol 2.4ghz sectors.I have a bunch of the old YDI 180degree sector antennas that have been far better than any others that I have used (great f/b ratio and 14db gain), but I'm pretty sure that they

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread RickG
Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal down and running the screws through it. Also, stay above the soffit. I always get the home owners permission. On the brick, I use mortar screws. They work

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread RickG
Very well put! -RickG On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, jpj...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: I just read up on this and wrote to my senator Snowe, a cosponsor. Feel free to do the same and creatively plagiarize as needed. I wrote: I have read that you are a cosponsor of s773 regarding

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
What do you mean stay above the soffit? Sounds kind of impossible to mount below it when you're mounting on the roof. The suggestion I had from the past is to use my favorite material (coax seal) on the tip of the screw before you start drilling. This puts the sealer in the threads (name?) and

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread RickG
I mean dont drill holes anywhere else on top of the roof - just the area above the soffit. That way if it happens to leak it will drip straight down through the soffit to the ground. The suggestion was correct and is what I do - place coax seal on the screw and between the mount roof. Never had