Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-29 Thread David Weddell
Lightyear is not a MVNO even though the market themselves that way. The MVNO is 
associated with the NRTC and you have to become a member of NRTC to even get 
involved. The deal is not that great and you don't have access to the latest 
phones. You can only sell last year's models and the data rate plans are weak. 
My 2 cents.

Dave W

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

I know of a company local to me that is a MVNO, it is Lightyear.  
www.lightyear.nethttp://www.lightyear.net
They are either a MVNO for Sprint or Verizon.

Regards,

Chuck

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnett 
sarn...@info-ed.commailto:sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? What is 
required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just offering data? Do you 
have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...

I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective customers to 
these companies before that I could not service and they could not get DSL.

Scottie
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Hoggmailto:ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
Regards,

Chuck

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett 
sarn...@info-ed.commailto:sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
 I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last night 
repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband 
wireless.com/http://www.broadband+wireless.com/ and another provider I have 
forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data internet through cell 
phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but if you 
read into it, it is not unlimited.

My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan on 
Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I will get 
the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return back to the 
office.




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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-29 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Maybe the MVNO it self is contractually obligated to sell last years
phones, but we dealers can do what ever we want =)
I sell brand new phones of what ever make/model the client will pay
for. I even cross sell networks (U*CC phones in the V*W network, etc).
I agree the data plans are weak, but there are companies out there
that sell decent plans. Ive got one that sells 'unlimited' (50GB soft
limit) but its on the Sp***t network and they do not have local
coverage here or I would go back to using them with a voip client and
no voice. There is a GSM provider that should have coverage here once
A*T builds their new tower.
They claim unlimited and afaik no one has found a limit as yet. I
would love to become part of a group who had access to better plans,
mostly data. At 4c/min or $45/mo unlimited voice, I have not found
anyone who beats P+.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:05 AM, David Weddell da...@omnicity.net wrote:
 Lightyear is not a MVNO even though the market themselves that way. The MVNO
 is associated with the NRTC and you have to become a member of NRTC to even
 get involved. The deal is not that great and you don’t have access to the
 latest phones. You can only sell last year’s models and the data rate plans
 are weak. My 2 cents.



 Dave W



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.



 I know of a company local to me that is a MVNO, it is Lightyear.
  www.lightyear.net

 They are either a MVNO for Sprint or Verizon.

 Regards,

 Chuck

 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? What is
 required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just offering data? Do
 you have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...



 I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective customers to
 these companies before that I could not service and they could not get DSL.



 Scottie

 - Original Message -

 From: Chuck Hogg

 To: WISPA General List

 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:03 AM

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.



 MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
 Regards,

 Chuck

 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

  I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last night
 repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .



 I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/
 and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless
 data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both
 advertise it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited.



 My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan
 on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I
 will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return
 back to the office.


 
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[WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Scottie Arnett
 I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last night 
repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/ and 
another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data 
internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it as 
unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited.

My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan on 
Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I will get 
the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return back to the 
office.


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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
Regards,

Chuck


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

   I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last
 night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

 I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/and 
 another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless
 data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both
 advertise it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited.

 My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan
 on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I
 will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return
 back to the office.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Andy Trimmell
Unlimited Plan 

$69.99 per month

The unlimited broadband account is a no contract service that allows for
nationwide coverage without a specific cap on the amount of data
transfer used for $69.99/month.  

Usage over 50 gigabytes in one month will alert our investigative team.

 

I mean really, how to contradict yourself all in the span of a
paragraph.

 

You can use your gun here at this firing range but if we hear gunfire
we're going to have to hold you in custody for illegal use of that
weapon your using

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

 

MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
Regards,

Chuck



On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
wrote:

 I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last
night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

 

I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband
wireless.com/ and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both
provide wireless data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and
4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is
not unlimited.

 

My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G
plan on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other
companies? I will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon
as I can return back to the office.






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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Scottie Arnett
Yea, lol. I saw that too. I stated it was not really unlimited last night. I 
flubbed the other link up, it is  http://www.broadbandqwireless.com/  .

Scottie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Trimmell 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.


  Unlimited Plan 

  $69.99 per month

  The unlimited broadband account is a no contract service that allows for 
nationwide coverage without a specific cap on the amount of data transfer used 
for $69.99/month.  

  Usage over 50 gigabytes in one month will alert our investigative team.

   

  I mean really, how to contradict yourself all in the span of a paragraph.

   

  You can use your gun here at this firing range but if we hear gunfire we're 
going to have to hold you in custody for illegal use of that weapon your using

   

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:03 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

   

  MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
  Regards,

  Chuck



  On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

   I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last night 
repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

   

  I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/ 
and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless 
data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise 
it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited.

   

  My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan on 
Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I will get 
the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return back to the 
office.




  

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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Scottie Arnett
Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? What is 
required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just offering data? Do you 
have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...

I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective customers to 
these companies before that I could not service and they could not get DSL.

Scottie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Hogg 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.


  MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
  Regards,

  Chuck



  On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

 I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last 
night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/ 
and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless 
data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise 
it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited.

My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan 
on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I will 
get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return back to 
the office.





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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
I know of a company local to me that is a MVNO, it is Lightyear.
www.lightyear.net

They are either a MVNO for Sprint or Verizon.

Regards,

Chuck


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.comwrote:

  Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? What
 is required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just offering data?
 Do you have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...

 I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective customers
 to these companies before that I could not service and they could not get
 DSL.

 Scottie

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 9:03 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

 MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.comwrote:

   I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last
 night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

 I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband
 wireless.com/ http://www.broadband+wireless.com/ and another provider I
 have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data internet through
 cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but
 if you read into it, it is not unlimited.

 My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan
 on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I
 will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return
 back to the office.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread support

this link might help

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/aboutUs/reseller/authorizedAgentIndex.jsp


On 1/28/2011 9:51 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

I know of a company local to me that is a MVNO, it is Lightyear.
www.lightyear.net

They are either a MVNO for Sprint or Verizon.

Regards,

Chuck


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnettsarn...@info-ed.comwrote:


  Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? What
is required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just offering data?
Do you have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...

I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective customers
to these companies before that I could not service and they could not get
DSL.

Scottie

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*From:* Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com
*To:* WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 9:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
Regards,

Chuck


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnettsarn...@info-ed.comwrote:


   I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last
night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband
wireless.com/http://www.broadband+wireless.com/  and another provider I
have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data internet through
cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but
if you read into it, it is not unlimited.

My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan
on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I
will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return
back to the office.





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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Fred Goldstein

At 1/28/2011 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? 
What is required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just 
offering data? Do you have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...


I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective 
customers to these companies before that I could not service and 
they could not get DSL.


There are two ways to have a wholesale (not dealer) relationship with 
the CMRS carrier.  MVNO is more common, where you lease the network 
wholesale (by the account, minute, etc.) and sell it as your 
own.  Tracfone, Credo and various other MVNOs operate in the US, 
though I think it's a bigger business in Europe.  Sprint is probably 
the most receptive to it; while ATTM and VZW have some MVNO deals, 
they are more interested in having their own retail customers.


The other arrangement is to have your own rural cellular system and 
franchise it as part of the big carrier's network.  This isn't too 
common, but Verizon Wireless wants the widest LTE coverage they can 
get, and since they'd rather concentrate their own resources in top 
markets, they'll allow third parties to build networks in some rural 
areas and operate them as part of VZW.  Obviously the two companies 
would have to settle on financial arrangements; the smaller company 
would presumably be putting up the capital and essentially letting 
VZW be an MVNO on its network.  A WISP with a decent tower footprint 
and the capital to build an LTE network might find that attractive.



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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Scottie Arnett
Thanks guys. This has me on track. I would have to go with Verizon if I tried 
something like this. The only other carrier in my area is US Cellular and I do 
not think they do this sort of thing. I wonder if it is like the horror stories 
of reselling the big co's DSL?

Scottie
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  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.


  At 1/28/2011 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote:

Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? What is 
required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just offering data? Do you 
have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...
 
I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective customers 
to these companies before that I could not service and they could not get DSL.


  There are two ways to have a wholesale (not dealer) relationship with the 
CMRS carrier.  MVNO is more common, where you lease the network wholesale (by 
the account, minute, etc.) and sell it as your own.  Tracfone, Credo and 
various other MVNOs operate in the US, though I think it's a bigger business in 
Europe.  Sprint is probably the most receptive to it; while ATTM and VZW have 
some MVNO deals, they are more interested in having their own retail customers.

  The other arrangement is to have your own rural cellular system and franchise 
it as part of the big carrier's network.  This isn't too common, but Verizon 
Wireless wants the widest LTE coverage they can get, and since they'd rather 
concentrate their own resources in top markets, they'll allow third parties to 
build networks in some rural areas and operate them as part of VZW.  Obviously 
the two companies would have to settle on financial arrangements; the smaller 
company would presumably be putting up the capital and essentially letting VZW 
be an MVNO on its network.  A WISP with a decent tower footprint and the 
capital to build an LTE network might find that attractive.


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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Hammett
That's what Verizon's rural LTE program was all about.  It has been 
discussed on one of the WISPA lists.


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On 1/28/2011 10:12 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

At 1/28/2011 10:46 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
Thanks Chuck, I had to Google that one. Has anyone ever done this? 
What is required to become a MVNO? Is there a difference in just 
offering data? Do you have to be a CLEC? Ah, so many questions...


I could get some customers with this. I have turned prospective 
customers to these companies before that I could not service and they 
could not get DSL.


There are two ways to have a wholesale (not dealer) relationship with 
the CMRS carrier.  MVNO is more common, where you lease the network 
wholesale (by the account, minute, etc.) and sell it as your own.  
Tracfone, Credo and various other MVNOs operate in the US, though I 
think it's a bigger business in Europe.  Sprint is probably the most 
receptive to it; while ATTM and VZW have some MVNO deals, they are 
more interested in having their own retail customers.


The other arrangement is to have your own rural cellular system and 
franchise it as part of the big carrier's network.  This isn't too 
common, but Verizon Wireless wants the widest LTE coverage they can 
get, and since they'd rather concentrate their own resources in top 
markets, they'll allow third parties to build networks in some rural 
areas and operate them as part of VZW.  Obviously the two companies 
would have to settle on financial arrangements; the smaller company 
would presumably be putting up the capital and essentially letting VZW 
be an MVNO on its network.  A WISP with a decent tower footprint and 
the capital to build an LTE network might find that attractive.


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 ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/
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