[WISPA] Fw: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...
fyi Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Jim Snider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:10 AM Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22... I attended this morning's senate hearing on wireless policy (see http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1709) and thought that Kevin Kahn's verbal statement in support of unlicensed use of the TV white spaces was excellent. Here is a link to the written statement, which I have not read: http://commerce.senate.gov/pdf/kahn-031406.pdf. Jeannine Kenney from Consumers Union also provided a strong endorsement of unlicensed use of the TV spaces. Even the GAO's representative, JayEtta Hecker was quite supportive of the white spaces proposal. On the other hand, MSTV and PFF came out swinging against it. But it is noteworthy that none of the senators badmouthed the white spaces proposal and Senators Lautenberg, Allen, and Kerry gave it vigorous endorsements, with even Committee Chair Stevens (who has one of the two pro white spaces bills) speaking out in favor of it. The most eloquent statement was by Lautenberg. As a practical matter, the biggest task right now is to refute MSTV's detailed engineering attack on the white spaces proposals, including a point-by-point attack of NAF's Marcus, Kolodzy, Lippman paper. This was handed out to all the senators. It's also time to recognize and respond to the broadcasters' strategy of using the IEEE 802.22 standards setting body to dilute any white spaces proposal Congress or the FCC might adopt. Given the current political situation, the 802.22 standards body recommendations have become central to the broadcasters' counter attack. On the surface, 802.22 supports the FCC's white spaces proposal. But it's a crippled version of the proposal, and that appears to be the compromise the broadcasters are now gunning for. --Jim P.S. If you haven't yet, please read the comments and reply comments to the FCC's proceeding on digital TV distributed transmission systems (docket 05-312). I believe that if broadcasters are successful in expanding their interference protection from their Grade B out to their DMA lines, it will have a huge impact on how much white space would be available under 04-186. If others think my analysis is wrong, I'd welcome your feedback. J.H. Snider, Ph.D. Senior Research Fellow New America Foundation 1630 Connecticut Ave., NW Washington, DC 20009 Phone: 202/986-2700 Fax: 202/986-3696 Web: www.newamerica.net E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Book Website: speaksoftly.jhsnider.net My Personal Blog: jhsnider.net/telecompolicy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...
Here is an idea to combat the interference worries. Why don't we suggest the use of the methods just approved for the 5.4 GHz band for avoiding the Radar operations. If this system is good enough to protect the federal government systems it should be good enough for all those people who still watch TV off the air (and I have to laugh about that one, those broadcasters don't rely on off the air signals to get the masses, it's cable TV)? Just a thought. Remember my offer to help this proposal with mapping support still stands. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message-From: Ron Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:15 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22... So Rick, Marlon & Scriv Where do we go from here? Here is a copy of a letter I sent to Mich Senators Levin & Stabenow, fyi. My name is Ron Wallace, I have been a long time supporter of Senator Levin and appreciate his good work in the Senate. I am writing you today to ask for your support for the present legislation before the Senate regarding the unlicensed use of unused Broadcast Television frequency bandwidth by wireless internet service providers (WISPs). I operate a WISP in Lenawee County Michigan. Providing adequate signal coverage to my rural service area is difficult at best using the existing unlicensed ISM, and UNII frequency bands (900 Mhz, 2.45 Ghz & 5.2-5.8 Ghz). These bands are severly attenuated by arboreal foliage (greatly decreased by trees & shrubbery), limiting our ability to reach rural subscribers. In these days of industrial contraction in Michigan, our small manufacturers that support the auto industry are being severely affected. More people are beginning to work at home in these rural areas. Western Lenawee County is no exception. The bills are the Wireless Innovation Act of 2006 (WINN Act), S 2327, introduced by Senators Allen (R-VA), Kerry (D-MA), Sununu (R-NH) and Boxer (D-CA) and the American Broadband for Communities Act (ABC Act), S 2332, introduced by Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Stevens. We need the Senators support of this critical legislation to ensure growth, and economic vitality in our County. I look forward to your support and you may count on my continued support of the important work that Senator Levin continues to do in the US Senate.Ron WallaceHahnron, Inc.220 S. Jackson Dt.Addison, MI 49220Phone: (517)547-8410Mobile: (517)605-4542e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] according to Jim Snyder we need to "refute MSTV's detailed engineering attack on the white spaces proposals". What do you all recommend? How may I assist?>-Original Message->From: Rick Harnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 02:40 PM>To: ''WISPA General List''>Subject: [WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...>>More FYI.>>Rick Harnish>President>OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.>260-827-2482 Office>260-307-4000 Cell>260-918-4340 VoIP>www.oibw.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>-Original Message->From: FCC NPRM for UHF TV Band Unlicensed Use On Behalf Of Jim Snider>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:10 PM>Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces>and the growing political importance of 802.22...>>I attended this morning's senate hearing on wireless policy (see>http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1709) and thought>that Kevin Kahn's verbal statement in support of unlicensed use of the>TV white spaces was excellent. Here is a link to the written statement,>which I have not read: http://commerce.senate.gov/pdf/kahn-031406.pdf.>Jeannine Kenney from Consumers Union also provided a strong endorsement>of unlicensed use of the TV spaces. Even the GAO's representative,>JayEtta Hecker was quite supportive of the white spaces proposal. >>On the other hand, MSTV and PFF came out swinging against it. But it is>noteworthy that none of the senators badmouthed the white spaces>proposal and Senators Lautenberg, Allen, and Kerry gave it vigorous>endorsements, with even Committee Chair Stevens (who has one of the two>pro white spaces bills) speaking out in favor of it. The most eloquent>statement was by Lautenberg.>>As a practical matter, the biggest
Re: [WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...
So Rick, Marlon & Scriv Where do we go from here? Here is a copy of a letter I sent to Mich Senators Levin & Stabenow, fyi. My name is Ron Wallace, I have been a long time supporter of Senator Levin and appreciate his good work in the Senate. I am writing you today to ask for your support for the present legislation before the Senate regarding the unlicensed use of unused Broadcast Television frequency bandwidth by wireless internet service providers (WISPs). I operate a WISP in Lenawee County Michigan. Providing adequate signal coverage to my rural service area is difficult at best using the existing unlicensed ISM, and UNII frequency bands (900 Mhz, 2.45 Ghz & 5.2-5.8 Ghz). These bands are severly attenuated by arboreal foliage (greatly decreased by trees & shrubbery), limiting our ability to reach rural subscribers. In these days of industrial contraction in Michigan, our small manufacturers that support the auto industry are being severely affected. More people are beginning to work at home in these rural areas. Western Lenawee County is no exception. The bills are the Wireless Innovation Act of 2006 (WINN Act), S 2327, introduced by Senators Allen (R-VA), Kerry (D-MA), Sununu (R-NH) and Boxer (D-CA) and the American Broadband for Communities Act (ABC Act), S 2332, introduced by Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Stevens. We need the Senators support of this critical legislation to ensure growth, and economic vitality in our County. I look forward to your support and you may count on my continued support of the important work that Senator Levin continues to do in the US Senate.Ron WallaceHahnron, Inc.220 S. Jackson Dt.Addison, MI 49220Phone: (517)547-8410Mobile: (517)605-4542e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] according to Jim Snyder we need to "refute MSTV's detailed engineering attack on the white spaces proposals". What do you all recommend? How may I assist?>-Original Message->From: Rick Harnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 02:40 PM>To: ''WISPA General List''>Subject: [WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...>>More FYI.>>Rick Harnish>President>OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.>260-827-2482 Office>260-307-4000 Cell>260-918-4340 VoIP>www.oibw.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>-Original Message->From: FCC NPRM for UHF TV Band Unlicensed Use On Behalf Of Jim Snider>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:10 PM>Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces>and the growing political importance of 802.22...>>I attended this morning's senate hearing on wireless policy (see>http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1709) and thought>that Kevin Kahn's verbal statement in support of unlicensed use of the>TV white spaces was excellent. Here is a link to the written statement,>which I have not read: http://commerce.senate.gov/pdf/kahn-031406.pdf.>Jeannine Kenney from Consumers Union also provided a strong endorsement>of unlicensed use of the TV spaces. Even the GAO's representative,>JayEtta Hecker was quite supportive of the white spaces proposal. >>On the other hand, MSTV and PFF came out swinging against it. But it is>noteworthy that none of the senators badmouthed the white spaces>proposal and Senators Lautenberg, Allen, and Kerry gave it vigorous>endorsements, with even Committee Chair Stevens (who has one of the two>pro white spaces bills) speaking out in favor of it. The most eloquent>statement was by Lautenberg.>>As a practical matter, the biggest task right now is to refute MSTV's>detailed engineering attack on the white spaces proposals, including a>point-by-point attack of NAF's Marcus, Kolodzy, Lippman paper. This was>handed out to all the senators. >>It's also time to recognize and respond to the broadcasters' strategy of>using the IEEE 802.22 standards setting body to dilute any white spaces>proposal Congress or the FCC might adopt. Given the current political>situation, the 802.22 standards body recommendations have become central>to the broadcasters' counter attack. On the surface, 802.22 supports>the FCC's white spaces proposal. But it's a crippled version of the>proposal, and that appears to be the compromise the broadcasters are now>gunning for.>>--Jim>>P.S. If you haven't yet, please read the comments and reply comments to>the FCC's proceeding on digital TV distributed transmission systems>(docket 05-312). I believe that if broadcasters are successful in>expanding their interference protection from their Grade B out to their>DMA lines, it will have a huge impact on how much white space would
[WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...
More FYI. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: FCC NPRM for UHF TV Band Unlicensed Use On Behalf Of Jim Snider Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22... I attended this morning's senate hearing on wireless policy (see http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1709) and thought that Kevin Kahn's verbal statement in support of unlicensed use of the TV white spaces was excellent. Here is a link to the written statement, which I have not read: http://commerce.senate.gov/pdf/kahn-031406.pdf. Jeannine Kenney from Consumers Union also provided a strong endorsement of unlicensed use of the TV spaces. Even the GAO's representative, JayEtta Hecker was quite supportive of the white spaces proposal. On the other hand, MSTV and PFF came out swinging against it. But it is noteworthy that none of the senators badmouthed the white spaces proposal and Senators Lautenberg, Allen, and Kerry gave it vigorous endorsements, with even Committee Chair Stevens (who has one of the two pro white spaces bills) speaking out in favor of it. The most eloquent statement was by Lautenberg. As a practical matter, the biggest task right now is to refute MSTV's detailed engineering attack on the white spaces proposals, including a point-by-point attack of NAF's Marcus, Kolodzy, Lippman paper. This was handed out to all the senators. It's also time to recognize and respond to the broadcasters' strategy of using the IEEE 802.22 standards setting body to dilute any white spaces proposal Congress or the FCC might adopt. Given the current political situation, the 802.22 standards body recommendations have become central to the broadcasters' counter attack. On the surface, 802.22 supports the FCC's white spaces proposal. But it's a crippled version of the proposal, and that appears to be the compromise the broadcasters are now gunning for. --Jim P.S. If you haven't yet, please read the comments and reply comments to the FCC's proceeding on digital TV distributed transmission systems (docket 05-312). I believe that if broadcasters are successful in expanding their interference protection from their Grade B out to their DMA lines, it will have a huge impact on how much white space would be available under 04-186. If others think my analysis is wrong, I'd welcome your feedback. J.H. Snider, Ph.D. Senior Research Fellow New America Foundation 1630 Connecticut Ave., NW Washington, DC 20009 Phone: 202/986-2700 Fax: 202/986-3696 Web: www.newamerica.net E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Book Website: speaksoftly.jhsnider.net My Personal Blog: jhsnider.net/telecompolicy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/