Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-24 Thread Rôney Eduardo
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

   We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge
 router trying to figure out who is using what

 Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more
 efficient way.
 I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower

 thanks in advance


 -
 Scott Piehn


If you have a managed switch and a spare linux machine, you could mirror the
port which your edge router's customer interface is connected to another
port on the switch, plug the linux switch to that port and use the iftop[1]
tool.

[]'s

Roney Eduardo

[1] http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/iftop/



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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-24 Thread Rôney Eduardo


 If you have a managed switch and a spare linux machine, you could mirror
 the port which your edge router's customer interface is connected to another
 port on the switch, plug the linux switch to that port and use the iftop[1]
 tool.

 []'s

 Roney Eduardo

 [1] http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/iftop/


Sorry...

Where it says ...plug the linux switch.. read ...plug the linux
machine...

Roney Eduardo



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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-21 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 16:21, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

   We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge
 router trying to figure out who is using what

 Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more
 efficient way.
 I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower


Do you mean queue?

Anyway, the easiest thing to do is just to watch your traffic at the edge.
If you're using Mikrotik, the integrated Torch tool is pretty nice, and can
limit traffic by physical interface, or by IP. Valemount StarOS has a
similar tool, as do most wireless platforms these days.. Failing that, set
up a mirror port on a switch and fire up Wireshark.

If you're doing the traffic shaping at each tower, why would you need or
want to shape it at the edge?

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-21 Thread Josh Luthman
If you're not NATing at the tower MTs you can just do simple queues on your
core and don't do them at the tower.  They'll catch the same traffic
(assuming they're not talk to neighboring customers).

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:52 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote:



 On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 16:21, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

   We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge
 router trying to figure out who is using what

 Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more
 efficient way.
 I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower


 Do you mean queue?

 Anyway, the easiest thing to do is just to watch your traffic at the edge.
 If you're using Mikrotik, the integrated Torch tool is pretty nice, and can
 limit traffic by physical interface, or by IP. Valemount StarOS has a
 similar tool, as do most wireless platforms these days.. Failing that, set
 up a mirror port on a switch and fire up Wireshark.

 If you're doing the traffic shaping at each tower, why would you need or
 want to shape it at the edge?

 David Smith
 MVN.net






 
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[WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-21 Thread Scott Piehn
We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge router 
trying to figure out who is using what

Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more 
efficient way.
I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower

thanks in advance


-
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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-21 Thread Josh Luthman
What are you trying to add on that you are missing?  Can't you just look at
the simple queues at each tower to figure out what a customer is using?  Are
you trying to aggregate them all to make it easier?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

   We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge
 router trying to figure out who is using what

 Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more
 efficient way.
 I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower

 thanks in advance


 -
 Scott Piehn




 
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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-21 Thread Justin Wilson
If you have a blanket que at each tower you can do a torch and see what Ips
are using the most bandwidth.  Otherwise, a que for each customer gives you
a traffic graph on the mikrotik graphs page (if you have that enabled).
That's the easy way to do it.

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From:  Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
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Date:  Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:21:25 -0600
To:  WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject:  [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge router
trying to figure out who is using what
 
Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more
efficient way.
I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower
 
thanks in advance
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

2011-02-21 Thread Scott Piehn
#2  Trying to aggregate to make easier.

I am trying the simple Q route.  have about 2300 in the edge router.  CPU is 
around 20 - 25%

Not sure if I am creating another issue somewhere else with the # of Qs in one 
place



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  Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge


  What are you trying to add on that you are missing?  Can't you just look at 
the simple queues at each tower to figure out what a customer is using?  Are 
you trying to aggregate them all to make it easier?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge router 
trying to figure out who is using what

Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more 
efficient way.
I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower

thanks in advance


-
Scott Piehn






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