Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-16 Thread Cameron Kilton
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema Freeside is the new interface. I only use Mikrotik devices (including CPE, which are the customer's router). -- Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-16 Thread Jory Privett
Yes you can Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema I want to you use Freeside badly for a while now

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-16 Thread Cameron Kilton
Sweet, baby steps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema Yes you can Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Hammett
] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema I want to you use Freeside badly for a while now, but the Billing Manager is nervous transferring data? Does anybody know if you can set a single billing day within Freeside

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread Cameron Kilton
address. Cameron Midcoast Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema If you have ever renumbered your entire

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema PPPoE Y'know, I've never understood why many ISPs are so fond of PPPOE. The only benefits anyone has ever articulated to me are an alleged improvement in ease of tracking customer-IP

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread Cameron Kilton
struggle as well as Apple Airports. -Cameron Midcoast Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema It has similar ease

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: [ on the benefits of PPPoE ] It has similar ease of address distribution as DHCP, but also carries rate limiting information as well. I'm switching to having the PPPoE backed by RADIUS, so my new management system will be a web interface where I can change anything

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread Mark Nash
Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema We use a mix. Everybody

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
bill for time spent fixing my customers home networks. ryan -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema We have always given a public IP address

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema Mike Hammett wrote: [ on the benefits of PPPoE ] It has similar ease of address distribution as DHCP

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema What are you using for web interface. We are using radius for our PPPoE. One of the problems we have noticed with PPPoE using MikroTik to pass the data to the radius server is some routers have

[WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
Just curious to NAT or not to NAT, We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a 10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more customers are wanting to use services that require a public IP, such as remote security camera monitoring, etc... we currently have

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread David E. Smith
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a 10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more customers are wanting to use services that require a public IP, such as remote security camera monitoring, etc... we currently have been offering

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Travis Johnson
We have always offered a single public IP address to every customer (dial-up, DSL, wireless, fiber, etc.) and then we charge $5/mo for each extra IP. It makes life SO much easier to track down customers when law enforcement comes with a subpeona, because the customer's IP never changes. We

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Brad Belton
14, 2008 4:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema We have always offered a single public IP address to every customer (dial-up, DSL, wireless, fiber, etc.) and then we charge $5/mo for each extra IP. It makes life SO much easier to track down customers

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema Agreed. There is no good reason not to give one public IP to each client. There are many reasons why it is a bad idea to NAT clients behind private IPs. Best, Brad -Original

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Brad Belton
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema So then, static or DHCP'd __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Mike Hammett
PPPoE -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema So

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Bryan Scott
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: So then, static or DHCP'd We use DHCP for everyone, then hard code it in the dhcp config file for those who want to get the same one each time (i.e. static IP). As long as you can track who has what and when, it doesn't really matter. You'll need to know when the feds

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread David E. Smith
PPPoE Y'know, I've never understood why many ISPs are so fond of PPPOE. The only benefits anyone has ever articulated to me are an alleged improvement in ease of tracking customer-IP associations, and your DHCP server and tower logs should take care of that for you just as easily. In the

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Travis Johnson
And to take it one step further, I've never understood using DHCP for customers. It makes it 10x easier for a rogue client to get on your network if you run DHCP instead of just static. You don't have to maintain any logs, or worry about your DHCP server having problems, etc. It seems one step

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema And to take it one step further, I've never understood using DHCP for customers. It makes it 10x easier for a rogue client to get on your network if you run DHCP instead of just static. You don't have to maintain any logs, or worry about your

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Brad Belton
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema If you have ever renumbered your entire network due to changing upstream providers or running out of IP, you will wish you had used DHCP everywhere. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema I think it's fair to say that any ISP of size has in fact done this once if not twice. It's not the end of the world unless

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Bryan Scott
Travis Johnson wrote: And to take it one step further, I've never understood using DHCP for customers. It makes it 10x easier for a rogue client to get on your network if you run DHCP instead of just static. You don't have to maintain any logs, or worry about your DHCP server having

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread Travis Johnson
concerning IP Schema And to take it one step further, I've never understood using DHCP for customers. It makes it 10x easier for a rogue client to get on your network if you run DHCP instead of just static. You don't have to maintain any logs, or worry about your DHCP server having

Re: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema

2008-05-14 Thread reader
. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Question concerning IP Schema Just curious to NAT or not to NAT, We have been operating with NATed addresses out to our customers on a 10.x.x.x private network, the trouble is more and more