RE: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

2007-02-13 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Actually we have recently added an LNA to this product that boosts the
receive sensitivity to -91 @ 11Mbps (same as the DLB25xx).  We haven't
had time to update all the product docs yet but will hopefully get to it
today or tomorrow.

-Hal

Harold Bledsoe
Deliberant LLC

800.742.9865 x205 (office)
404.693.0660 (cell)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deliberant.com


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Subject: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

Hi All,

I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp.  I can do it today
with a 
500mw amp and 8dB omni.

Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm

Is there any receive gain on them?  If it's only -80ish receive
sensitivity 
it won't be able to do the same range as a standard radio/amp combo.

I am space limited at that tower site so this would be a nice solution
that 
would allow me to gain back quite a bit of room.  But whatever I put in
has 
to work with my existing customers at that site.

thoughts?
marlon

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RE: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

2007-02-13 Thread Ralph
Marlon-

We have three of them in testing. So far, I'm pretty impressed.
They have a newer iteration that had a preamp built in, so the sensitivity
is very good.
Stay away from the Amp and try the Deliberant. That FCC sticker on the side
is your friend if/when you get a visit from Uncle Charlie.
The outdoor enclosure they provide is awesome. Of course I COULD be
prejudiced because they are based near me in Atlanta GA, but I'm not.

Ralph
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:58 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

Hi All,

I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp.  I can do it today with a
500mw amp and 8dB omni.

Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm

Is there any receive gain on them?  If it's only -80ish receive sensitivity
it won't be able to do the same range as a standard radio/amp combo.

I am space limited at that tower site so this would be a nice solution that
would allow me to gain back quite a bit of room.  But whatever I put in has
to work with my existing customers at that site.

thoughts?
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

2007-02-13 Thread John Scrivner

Harold,
As with your other products, this is certified with the FCC with your 
antennas, correct?

Thanks,
Scriv


Harold Bledsoe wrote:


Actually we have recently added an LNA to this product that boosts the
receive sensitivity to -91 @ 11Mbps (same as the DLB25xx).  We haven't
had time to update all the product docs yet but will hopefully get to it
today or tomorrow.

-Hal

Harold Bledsoe
Deliberant LLC

800.742.9865 x205 (office)
404.693.0660 (cell)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deliberant.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

Hi All,

I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp.  I can do it today
with a 
500mw amp and 8dB omni.


Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm

Is there any receive gain on them?  If it's only -80ish receive
sensitivity 
it won't be able to do the same range as a standard radio/amp combo.


I am space limited at that tower site so this would be a nice solution
that 
would allow me to gain back quite a bit of room.  But whatever I put in
has 
to work with my existing customers at that site.


thoughts?
marlon

 


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[WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

2007-02-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

Hi All,

I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp.  I can do it today with a 
500mw amp and 8dB omni.


Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm

Is there any receive gain on them?  If it's only -80ish receive sensitivity 
it won't be able to do the same range as a standard radio/amp combo.


I am space limited at that tower site so this would be a nice solution that 
would allow me to gain back quite a bit of room.  But whatever I put in has 
to work with my existing customers at that site.


thoughts?
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

2007-02-12 Thread George Rogato

Why don't you do it in 5 gig and skip the 2 gig - amp?

The more I do this stuff the more I think 2 gig is short and 5 gig is long.


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

Hi All,

I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp.  I can do it today 
with a 500mw amp and 8dB omni.


Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm

Is there any receive gain on them?  If it's only -80ish receive 
sensitivity it won't be able to do the same range as a standard 
radio/amp combo.


I am space limited at that tower site so this would be a nice solution 
that would allow me to gain back quite a bit of room.  But whatever I 
put in has to work with my existing customers at that site.


thoughts?
marlon



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Re: [WISPA] anyone used high powered deliberant?

2007-02-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

30+ existing subs from that tower.

Besides, I'm not putting up ANY WiFi based 5 gig gear.  I'm not gonna go 
down that interference road again.


I may change my mind for some really small systems, but those ones aren't 
likely to have spectrum issues anyway so why bother?


I'm really liking Trango for my 5 gig gear.  And the cost is S close to 
what wifi runs.  Plus it's much more robust.


I've got a couple of spots I'm more than a little tempted to put Alvarion 
into.  Even if I won't make quota with it.  One 120* system, put in a 1 meg 
res. speed cap and let my business customers still hit 8 or 10 gigs.  Works 
for me.


I just sold my second $400 residential trango account.  They'll get up to 8 
megs both ways and will pay the same $75 per month that the business 
customers do.  I can live with that!  And I think I'll get more and more 
teleworkers willing to spring for those amounts.  Beats the heck out of a 
gas bill these days.


This tower, however, has none of that.  I just need to find a product 
that'll be stable on top of it.  One of my most difficult sites to get to, 
and also my most troublesome.  Gotta love that program!  sigh


marlon

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Why don't you do it in 5 gig and skip the 2 gig - amp?

The more I do this stuff the more I think 2 gig is short and 5 gig is 
long.



Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

Hi All,

I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp.  I can do it today 
with a 500mw amp and 8dB omni.


Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm

Is there any receive gain on them?  If it's only -80ish receive 
sensitivity it won't be able to do the same range as a standard radio/amp 
combo.


I am space limited at that tower site so this would be a nice solution 
that would allow me to gain back quite a bit of room.  But whatever I put 
in has to work with my existing customers at that site.


thoughts?
marlon



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