[WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Marco Coelho
I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?

Marco

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Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036



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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Marco,

In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume these
faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two 6Ghz
channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?

Marco

-- 
Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036




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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread lakeland
Just to add...

 New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

FYI

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


Hello Marco,

In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume these
faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two 6Ghz
channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?

Marco

-- 
Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036




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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Is this what you're talking about, Bob?  The EX-6i-DS3-GigE

http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Just to add...

  New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

 FYI

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 Hello Marco,

 In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
 Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
 some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume
 these
 faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
 170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two
 6Ghz
 channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

 If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
 GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
 To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

 Marco

 --
 Marco C. Coelho
 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Brad Belton
Yep...I got that Exalt email too, but exactly how?  Multiple channels?  The
email didn't include any details.  Is it a true 1Gbps FDX or 500Mbps FDX?
Not that 500Mbps at 6GHz is anything to sneeze at...

Or is it VaporWare?


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

Just to add...

 New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

FYI

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


Hello Marco,

In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume these
faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two 6Ghz
channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?

Marco

-- 
Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036




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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Well, duh ...aggregation of multiple radios...

We can all bond multiple radios to get to a certain speed.  Just
divide the total speed you need by 187Mbps and that's the number of
radios/licenses you need.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Is this what you're talking about, Bob?  The EX-6i-DS3-GigE

 http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Just to add...

  New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

 FYI

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 Hello Marco,

 In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
 Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
 some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume
 these
 faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
 170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two
 6Ghz
 channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

 If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
 GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
 To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

 Marco

 --
 Marco C. Coelho
 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread lakeland
Uh Duh.  

That's not how it is being done to my knowledge

-B-
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-Original Message-
From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:27:03 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


Well, duh ...aggregation of multiple radios...

We can all bond multiple radios to get to a certain speed.  Just
divide the total speed you need by 187Mbps and that's the number of
radios/licenses you need.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Is this what you're talking about, Bob?  The EX-6i-DS3-GigE

 http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Just to add...

  New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

 FYI

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 Hello Marco,

 In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
 Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
 some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume
 these
 faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
 170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two
 6Ghz
 channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

 If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
 GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
 To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

 Marco

 --
 Marco C. Coelho
 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Gino Villarini
187 mbps Per link

For 1 gig youll need 6 links

Is there rf room for 6 simultanious links in the same path?



Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Josh Luthman  
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Is this what you're talking about, Bob?  The EX-6i-DS3-GigE

 http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Just to add...

 New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

 FYI

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 Hello Marco,

 In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that  
 distance.
 Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read  
 about
 some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I  
 assume
 these
 faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
 170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding  
 two
 6Ghz
 channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

 If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
 GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
 To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

 Marco

 --
 Marco C. Coelho
 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036



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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Brad Belton
Right, but the Exalt pitch is the radios bond within themselves.  No outside
equipment required.  

Bottom line is you'll likely need to be in a pretty remote area in order to
be able to find multiple 6GHz channels available between two points.

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

Well, duh ...aggregation of multiple radios...

We can all bond multiple radios to get to a certain speed.  Just
divide the total speed you need by 187Mbps and that's the number of
radios/licenses you need.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Is this what you're talking about, Bob?  The EX-6i-DS3-GigE

 http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Just to add...

  New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

 FYI

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 Hello Marco,

 In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that distance.
 Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read about
 some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I assume
 these
 faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
 170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding two
 6Ghz
 channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

 If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
 GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

 Best,


 Brad


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 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Brad Belton
Exalt says only up to four links can be bonded.  So, it's similar to
DragonWave's claim of GigE radios.  Almost, but no cigar!

Last I checked 800Mbps isn't 1000Mbps...

Brad


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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:30 PM
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187 mbps Per link

For 1 gig youll need 6 links

Is there rf room for 6 simultanious links in the same path?



Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Josh Luthman  
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Is this what you're talking about, Bob?  The EX-6i-DS3-GigE

 http://www.exaltcom.com/EX-6i-DS3-GigE.aspx

 Josh Luthman
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 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Just to add...

 New Exalt equipment will provide up to 1 Gb throughput at 6 Ghz.

 FYI

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:35:14
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 Hello Marco,

 In our neck of the woods 6Ghz is about all you can use at that  
 distance.
 Typically 6GHz is only good for about 155-170Mbps, but I have read  
 about
 some faster radios.  Given 6GHz only gives you 30MHz channels I  
 assume
 these
 faster 6GHz radios are using two 30MHz channels to reach beyond the
 170Mbps ceiling.  Problem you may run into at that point is finding  
 two
 6Ghz
 channels available in or near a market as large and noisy as DFW!

 If 160Mbps+ is enough bandwidth for you then I'd look at the Trango
 GigaLINK.  So far all our licensed Trango gear has performed well.

 Best,


 Brad


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 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:16 PM
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 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Fastest and Reliable are two conflicting variables, and question cant be 
accurately answered without defining expectations for atleast one of them.
Big difference in distance between 99.9, 99.99 and 99.999%.
As well, if you use the DUO product lines, you can actually bond up to 4 
channels to increase the capacity by 4x, if channels are available and price 
is really no object.
Any frequency other than 6Ghz, you'd have to drop down to 99.9 reliabilty, 
and accept slower modulations.

Actually 18Ghz can do better than 11Ghz in some situations with low rain 
zone, because 18Ghz allows a bit wider channels and slightly higher power 
than 11Ghz.
But 18Ghz rain loss is still significantly worse.

The relevent question is whether its viable to put a half way point relay 
tower or not.  Two 14 miles links in series drastically increases your 
options, compared to just having one long 28 miles link, which pretty much 
restricts you to 6Ghz and the 6 ft minimum dish requirement.

But note that in your Greenville  rain zone, w/ 6ft dish and HC190 - 29Mhz 
channel, the DW tool still only shows 99.91% reliabilty.

This is why some have chosen to use expensive large channel Dual pol 5.8Ghz 
in remote environment that had the spectrum free.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
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To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


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 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

 Marco

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Marco Coelho
I've got fiber to my noc, but need a diverse path (and cheaper per meg
bandwidth).

Options:

Build fiber to Dalllas, at 43 miles that's pretty expensive (443K).
Buy/Lease Dark Fiber to Dallas (I know there is dark fiber in the
trunk along I30, but I am having a hard time finding out who owns it)
Set up Microwave links to Dallas.
  Since I own the towers between here and there, I can put very large
dishes up 'cheap'.
  I can shorten the hop to 21 miles, but that is to a tower I lease
space on, so the rent goes up.

Any help with any of the above would be appreciated.

Marco

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
 Fastest and Reliable are two conflicting variables, and question cant be
 accurately answered without defining expectations for atleast one of them.
 Big difference in distance between 99.9, 99.99 and 99.999%.
 As well, if you use the DUO product lines, you can actually bond up to 4
 channels to increase the capacity by 4x, if channels are available and price
 is really no object.
 Any frequency other than 6Ghz, you'd have to drop down to 99.9 reliabilty,
 and accept slower modulations.

 Actually 18Ghz can do better than 11Ghz in some situations with low rain
 zone, because 18Ghz allows a bit wider channels and slightly higher power
 than 11Ghz.
 But 18Ghz rain loss is still significantly worse.

 The relevent question is whether its viable to put a half way point relay
 tower or not.  Two 14 miles links in series drastically increases your
 options, compared to just having one long 28 miles link, which pretty much
 restricts you to 6Ghz and the 6 ft minimum dish requirement.

 But note that in your Greenville  rain zone, w/ 6ft dish and HC190 - 29Mhz
 channel, the DW tool still only shows 99.91% reliabilty.

 This is why some have chosen to use expensive large channel Dual pol 5.8Ghz
 in remote environment that had the spectrum free.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
 To: w...@part-15.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:15 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth


 I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
 If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
 up?

 Marco

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
Horizon Duo 11GHz utilizing four channels would net you 1.2Gbps roughly

I'd be happy to assist offlist with Path Calcs and quotes

Daniel White
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I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
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Marco

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
Oh and rumor has it Dragonwave is announcing a new product next week that
might double that throughput... :-D

Daniel White
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Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:27 PM
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Horizon Duo 11GHz utilizing four channels would net you 1.2Gbps roughly

I'd be happy to assist offlist with Path Calcs and quotes

Daniel White
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http://www.3dbnetworks.com

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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:16 PM
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I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?

Marco

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread Marco Coelho
Is that 1.2 in each direction or a combined throughput of 1.2?

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:
 Horizon Duo 11GHz utilizing four channels would net you 1.2Gbps roughly

 I'd be happy to assist offlist with Path Calcs and quotes

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I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
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Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

2009-09-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
Full Duplex... requires four 40MHz channels though

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

Is that 1.2 in each direction or a combined throughput of 1.2?

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:
 Horizon Duo 11GHz utilizing four channels would net you 1.2Gbps
roughly

 I'd be happy to assist offlist with Path Calcs and quotes

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

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On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:16 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] licensed links / distance / bandwidth

I'm wanting a licensed link to shoot 28.8 miles with clear Fresnel.
If money is not an issue, what if the fastest reliable link I can put
up?

Marco

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links

2006-03-25 Thread Bo Hamilton
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[WISPA] licensed links

2006-03-23 Thread Mario Pommier
helps me, Marlon, as I'm now looking to provide a licensed link of 
25Mbps or more to a regional TV network.

Thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:


www.microwavenetworks.com

Call the main office.  Talk to Brad Ingram 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tell him his number came from Charlie 
Curothers (sp?)


Their fastest system will do 155 megs but you can hook more than one 
into the same antenna via taps in the wave guide.  Run each of those 
systems via a failover router type system and off you go, high speed, 
fully redundant etc.


Hope that helps,
marlon

- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] high bandwidth long links


300-600Mbps

On Apr 28, 2005, at 4:46 PM, G.Villarini wrote:


What kind of bandwith? Gige?

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On Apr 28, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Charles Wu wrote:


True; I'm making the assumption that you're in the business of
providing connectivity - and that wireless (licensed or
license-exempt) is just another tool in the box.

That said, if you're irrational enough to stick with wireless, you can
always follow Ken D's suggestion, and string a LONG LINE of 500' 60
GHz GigE links...


Why do I have to be irrational? Show me the cost benefit analysis of
trenching fiber vs. using wireless and we will see who is rational.

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Re: [WISPA] licensed links

2006-03-23 Thread Mac Dearman

Anyone have a suggestion for a really fine 5.x H Pol omni antenna?

Thanks
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