Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread Tom DeReggi

You gotta love those StarOS 5-10 Mhz channels :-)

Tom DeReggi
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What is the beam width of the rootenna to use it as an AP?? you must have 
a

bunch of them to get 360* coverage

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Behalf

Of George Rogato
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3

George


N White wrote:
> What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what
> kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at
> moving all new customers to 5Ghz.
>
> -Nick
>
> George Rogato wrote:
>
>> Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked
>> out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?
>>
>> They are working great for me and they are cheap.
>>
>> George
>>
>> Tom DeReggi wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking
>>> Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending
>>> this idea)
>>>
>>> An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock
>>> radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and
>>> jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than
>>> both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more
>>> additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a high
>>> end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable
>>> to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be
>>> one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be
>>> easier to make quantity orders.
>>>
>>> In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import 
>>> charges)

>>> Atlas Fox $149.
>>> Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
>>>
>>> It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not
>>> having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this yet?
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread Tom DeReggi

With a rootena, at 7 miles, sounds like George is over power limits.
But take note, 5.3G can be within limits to reach 7 miles. You can actually 
reach 10 miles (with little fade margin) and be within the limits.

It does however require a 32 db dish, and a -2 power level to be legal.

Tom DeReggi
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox


Remember, at 5.3 gig you are only allowed 1WATT eirp.  That's 30 dB.  If 
you have a 24dB antenna the radio output has to be dropped down to 6dB.


But, that's part of why I love 5.3!  Forces people to use good antennas 
and low power radios instead of high power radios with junk antennas! 
hehehehe


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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox



I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3

George


N White wrote:
What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what 
kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at 
moving all new customers to 5Ghz.


-Nick

George Rogato wrote:

Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked 
out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending 
this idea)
 An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and 
jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than 
both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more 
additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a high 
end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable 
to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be 
one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be 
easier to make quantity orders.
 In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import 
charges)

Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
 It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this yet?

 Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
The big delimna for years, is that Trango has the unique advantage of Dual 
Pol on the fly.
If you give up Dual Pol flexibilty, whats the point in using Trango, that's 
their main advantage.

Sure the Rootenna are cheap, we use them for our Mikrotik/StarOS CPEs.
I suggest the MTI as a match for Trango, because its the only one available 
at a reasonable price.

Even Trango's model (without the back) goes for $300.
I'm not that big a fan anymore of the MTI panels, they break way to easilly. 
I attribute it to the overly hard plastic, that does not absorb shock.

I also think MTIs are to expensive, for retail QTY1, often around $300 also.
But in Quantity the MTIs can be gotten pretty cheaply.

Tom DeReggi
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From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox


Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked out 
the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:

I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending this 
idea)
 An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and jumper 
to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than both a base 
Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more additional DB, which 
would make it a fantastic combination for a high end business or 
residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable to OFDM, and easy 
to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be one radio CPE type to 
stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be easier to make quantity 
orders.

 In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)
Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15 Total: $409.
 It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish. So why is Trango not doing this yet?

 Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread George Rogato

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Short pigtail  - less signal loss

Plus if you add in the RJ-45-ECS (Ethernet connector system) you get a nice easy
to swap unit



Dan Metcalf



Right on Dan.
Thats what we've been doing. Prebuilt, easy to install.
With the Star WAr boards we've even gone as far as adding the 2nd 
antenna port with an external nfemale bulkhead and dropping in a local 
"high quality" ap sector inside of the premises and getting away from 
using cheapo consumerable wireless routers, the ones that disapoint our 
customers and make us look bad.


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RE: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread danlist
Short pigtail  - less signal loss

Plus if you add in the RJ-45-ECS (Ethernet connector system) you get a nice easy
to swap unit



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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of George Rogato
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox
> 
> The Pac Wireless 5 gig rootennas are only 19db gain.
> 
> What I like best about all of the antenna enclosures is the lack f
> cabling, just a short pigtail from the radio card to the antenna port.
> 
> Also with star you can adjust the power of the card. Default power is
> what we use mostly. No need to increase the power under most circumstance.
> 
> 
> 
> George
> 
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> > Remember, at 5.3 gig you are only allowed 1WATT eirp.  That's 30 dB.  If
> > you have a 24dB antenna the radio output has to be dropped down to 6dB.
> >
> > But, that's part of why I love 5.3!  Forces people to use good antennas
> > and low power radios instead of high power radios with junk antennas!
> > hehehehe
> >
> > Marlon
> > (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox
> >
> >
> >> I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3
> >>
> >> George
> >>
> >>
> >> N White wrote:
> >>> What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And
> >>> what kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're
> >>> looking at moving all new customers to 5Ghz.
> >>>
> >>> -Nick
> >>>
> >>> George Rogato wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you
> >>>> checked out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?
> >>>>
> >>>> They are working great for me and they are cheap.
> >>>>
> >>>> George
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom DeReggi wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I was thinking
> >>>>> Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or
> >>>>> recommending this idea)
> >>>>>  An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/
> >>>>> stock radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna
> >>>>> and jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive
> >>>>> than both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more
> >>>>> additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a
> >>>>> high end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise,
> >>>>> upgradable to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it
> >>>>> would only be one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs,
> >>>>> allowing it to be easier to make quantity orders.
> >>>>>  In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import
> >>>>> charges)
> >>>>> Atlas Fox $149.
> >>>>> Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
> >>>>>  It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by
> >>>>> not having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this
> >>>>> yet?
> >>>>>  Tom DeReggi
> >>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread George Rogato

The Pac Wireless 5 gig rootennas are only 19db gain.

What I like best about all of the antenna enclosures is the lack f 
cabling, just a short pigtail from the radio card to the antenna port.


Also with star you can adjust the power of the card. Default power is 
what we use mostly. No need to increase the power under most circumstance.




George


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Remember, at 5.3 gig you are only allowed 1WATT eirp.  That's 30 dB.  If 
you have a 24dB antenna the radio output has to be dropped down to 6dB.


But, that's part of why I love 5.3!  Forces people to use good antennas 
and low power radios instead of high power radios with junk antennas!  
hehehehe


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox



I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3

George


N White wrote:
What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And 
what kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're 
looking at moving all new customers to 5Ghz.


-Nick

George Rogato wrote:

Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you 
checked out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or 
recommending this idea)
 An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ 
stock radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna 
and jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive 
than both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more 
additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a 
high end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, 
upgradable to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it 
would only be one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, 
allowing it to be easier to make quantity orders.
 In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import 
charges)

Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
 It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by 
not having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this 
yet?

 Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread George Rogato

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What is the beam width of the rootenna to use it as an AP?? you must have a
bunch of them to get 360* coverage

Dan Metcalf



Yeah, Dan,
I'm using tighter beamwidths as much as possible for spectrum conservation.

I do use omni's in 2.4 quite a bit, but 5 gig I like it tight.

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RE: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread danlist
What is the beam width of the rootenna to use it as an AP?? you must have a
bunch of them to get 360* coverage

Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
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781-566-2053 ext 6201
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of George Rogato
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:32 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox
> 
> I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3
> 
> George
> 
> 
> N White wrote:
> > What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what
> > kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at
> > moving all new customers to 5Ghz.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > George Rogato wrote:
> >
> >> Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked
> >> out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?
> >>
> >> They are working great for me and they are cheap.
> >>
> >> George
> >>
> >> Tom DeReggi wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was thinking
> >>> Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending
> >>> this idea)
> >>>
> >>> An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock
> >>> radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and
> >>> jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than
> >>> both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more
> >>> additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a high
> >>> end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable
> >>> to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be
> >>> one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be
> >>> easier to make quantity orders.
> >>>
> >>> In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)
> >>> Atlas Fox $149.
> >>> Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
> >>>
> >>> It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not
> >>> having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this yet?
> >>>
> >>> Tom DeReggi
> >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Remember, at 5.3 gig you are only allowed 1WATT eirp.  That's 30 dB.  If you 
have a 24dB antenna the radio output has to be dropped down to 6dB.


But, that's part of why I love 5.3!  Forces people to use good antennas and 
low power radios instead of high power radios with junk antennas!  hehehehe


Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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- Original Message - 
From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox



I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3

George


N White wrote:
What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what 
kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at 
moving all new customers to 5Ghz.


-Nick

George Rogato wrote:

Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked 
out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending 
this idea)
 An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and jumper 
to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than both a base 
Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more additional DB, which 
would make it a fantastic combination for a high end business or 
residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable to OFDM, and easy 
to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be one radio CPE type to 
stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be easier to make quantity 
orders.

 In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)
Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
 It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this yet?

 Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread George Rogato

I'm using them as ap's. I have a link that is about 8 miles @ 5.3

George


N White wrote:
What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what 
kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at 
moving all new customers to 5Ghz.


-Nick

George Rogato wrote:

Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked 
out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending 
this idea)
 
An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and 
jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than 
both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more 
additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a high 
end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable 
to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be 
one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be 
easier to make quantity orders.
 
In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)

Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15  Total: $409.
 
It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish.  So why is Trango not doing this yet?
 
Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 





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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread N White
What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what 
kind of APs & Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at 
moving all new customers to 5Ghz.


-Nick

George Rogato wrote:
Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked 
out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:

I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending 
this idea)
 
An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and 
jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than 
both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more 
additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a high 
end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable 
to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be 
one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be 
easier to make quantity orders.
 
In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)

Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15  
Total: $409.
 
It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish.  
So why is Trango not doing this yet?
 
Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 




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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Mti's are a lot better antenna but a bit more pricey.

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Jeff



On 6/7/06 9:16 PM, "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked
> out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?
> 
> They are working great for me and they are cheap.
> 
> George
> 
> Tom DeReggi wrote:
>> I was thinking
>> Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending
>> this idea)
>>  
>> An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock
>> radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and jumper
>> to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than both a base
>> Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more additional DB, which
>> would make it a fantastic combination for a high end business or
>> residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable to OFDM, and easy
>> to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be one radio CPE type to
>> stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be easier to make quantity orders.
>>  
>> In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)
>> Atlas Fox $149.
>> Pigtail Jumpers: $15
>>  
>> Total: $409.
>>  
>> It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not
>> having to muck with the dish.
>>  
>> So why is Trango not doing this yet?
>>  
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>  
>>  
>> 


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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-07 Thread George Rogato
Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked 
out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:

I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending 
this idea)
 
An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and jumper 
to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than both a base 
Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more additional DB, which 
would make it a fantastic combination for a high end business or 
residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable to OFDM, and easy 
to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be one radio CPE type to 
stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be easier to make quantity orders.
 
In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)

Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15 
 
Total: $409.
 
It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish. 
 
So why is Trango not doing this yet?
 
Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 



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