Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Can I get some more details? You've completely lost me with this. btw, what ever is done has to be at a central location, can't be on each pc. People own their own pc's. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, That being the case, I would do something simple like the L7 Filter or DansGuardian, quick and easy and best of all, cheap. I think a lot of the suggestions are overkill for what you are describing. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Marlon, Sorry for the confusion. The architecture would depend on the topology of the network. Based on my assumptions, here is how I think you could set it up: AP/Tower ^ | SU/CPE ^ | Router/Firewall (if any) ^ | Content Filter ^ | School Network For the software solution, you will need a server with two network interfaces on it, one that talks to the router/firewall or CPE, and the other that is hooked into the switch or whatever local distribution mechanism you have on premises. The IP on the interface plugged into the switch becomes the default gateway for the rest of the schools network. The content filter server would have the DansGuardian (http://dansguardian.org/?page=introduction) or L7 Filter (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/) on the server and inspect packets as they pass through it to and from the school network. The installation of the software is beyond the scope of the mailinglist and there is a ton of support on those pages and using google. But, you can msg me offlist if you have questions about it. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Can I get some more details? You've completely lost me with this. btw, what ever is done has to be at a central location, can't be on each pc. People own their own pc's. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, That being the case, I would do something simple like the L7 Filter or DansGuardian, quick and easy and best of all, cheap. I think a lot of the suggestions are overkill for what you are describing. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
DansGuardian also runs as a proxy so it only needs one interface. The folks at DansGuardian are most helpful. Contact them with questions and they will help you with a solution. Kris R Efland wrote: Marlon, Sorry for the confusion. The architecture would depend on the topology of the network. Based on my assumptions, here is how I think you could set it up: AP/Tower ^ | SU/CPE ^ | Router/Firewall (if any) ^ | Content Filter ^ | School Network For the software solution, you will need a server with two network interfaces on it, one that talks to the router/firewall or CPE, and the other that is hooked into the switch or whatever local distribution mechanism you have on premises. The IP on the interface plugged into the switch becomes the default gateway for the rest of the schools network. The content filter server would have the DansGuardian (http://dansguardian.org/?page=introduction) or L7 Filter (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/) on the server and inspect packets as they pass through it to and from the school network. The installation of the software is beyond the scope of the mailinglist and there is a ton of support on those pages and using google. But, you can msg me offlist if you have questions about it. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Can I get some more details? You've completely lost me with this. btw, what ever is done has to be at a central location, can't be on each pc. People own their own pc's. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, That being the case, I would do something simple like the L7 Filter or DansGuardian, quick and easy and best of all, cheap. I think a lot of the suggestions are overkill for what you are describing. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
http://www.sonicwall.com/us/Content_Security_Management.html George Rogato wrote: I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Do you have a content filtering service? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
How do you do web content filtering on MT? Smith, Rick wrote: You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Use firewall mangling / packet matching ? I use it at a local school here to block myspace.com and all the free proxies for it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router How do you do web content filtering on MT? Smith, Rick wrote: You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Do you have a content filtering service? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Do you have a content filtering service? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, what is porn? Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides? The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was. -Matt Smith, Rick wrote: again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
George, You *could* do it that way, by poisoning your DNS cache (or de-poisoning it, depending on your outlook), but what would stop someone from using another DNS server, like Open DNS? You need something in the byte stream for it to be effective. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Do you have a content filtering service? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
You got it, Matt, and that is why I ask how to do it with MT. My SonicWall subscription service works great for this, but if someone knows a way to do it in MT, that would be awesome. Matt Liotta wrote: That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, what is porn? Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides? The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was. -Matt Smith, Rick wrote: again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Try a Barracuda Web Filter. Not sure how good they work but their Spamfilter works pretty good. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router You got it, Matt, and that is why I ask how to do it with MT. My SonicWall subscription service works great for this, but if someone knows a way to do it in MT, that would be awesome. Matt Liotta wrote: That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, what is porn? Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides? The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was. -Matt Smith, Rick wrote: again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
check squidguard with squidcache. not commercial, but cheap.. http://www.squidguard.org/ http://squidguard.mesd.k12.or.us/ -- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=4293highlight=surfcontrol - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Marlon, That being the case, I would do something simple like the L7 Filter or DansGuardian, quick and easy and best of all, cheap. I think a lot of the suggestions are overkill for what you are describing. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Kris R Efland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will set you back $700-$1000. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
I would suggest a content filter on each PC. I have a client that uses something called BeSafe. I think the URL is www.besafe.com I have little contact with the software so I can not tell you much about it. The client is a church ran store similar to TSA. On 5/7/07, Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will set you back $700-$1000. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
