Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-29 Thread Curtis Maurand

Yes, but Maia Mailguard doesn't know how to deal with dbmail which is 
the non standard piece that I'm using.  dbmail is a replacement for 
dovecot or other local mail transport that uses MySQL or PostgreSQL as 
it message store and for accounts.  I don't have to have user accounts 
for the mail customers.  Its very fast very stable and allows for 
realtime replication of mail data accross servers.  You can build a 
decent DB server and connect several dbmail machines to it.
I'm also using powerdns so everything is in a MySQL database and 
everything is replicated.  I just wish amavisd-new and database 
configuration for it was straight forward.

--C

On 3/25/2010 9:30 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
> fully brandable as well :-)
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
>
>> Maia MailGuard is a very nice frontend/control panel for it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck Hogg
>> Shelby Broadband
>> 502-722-9292
>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>> I've been running a similar setup on Gentoo Linux.
>>
>> MySQL
>> dbmail
>> postfix
>> spamassassin
>> fuzzyOCR
>> amavisd-new
>> clamav
>>
>> It all just works, its stable and not too hard to manage.  You won't
>> find a cool control panel.
>>
>> These are the technologies that Barracuda uses in their "appliances."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/2010 4:53 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>>  
>>>  Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
>>>
>> process
>>  
>>> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are
>>>
>> ones that
>>  
>>> continually get updated.
>>>
>>>  This might help:
>>> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
>>>
>>> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-25 Thread Chuck Hogg
Yes, I did an integration of their template directly into our website.
Works very well.  Very easy to use and maintain.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
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502-722-9292
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

fully brandable as well :-)


On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

> Maia MailGuard is a very nice frontend/control panel for it.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>
> I've been running a similar setup on Gentoo Linux.
>
> MySQL
> dbmail
> postfix
> spamassassin
> fuzzyOCR
> amavisd-new
> clamav
>
> It all just works, its stable and not too hard to manage.  You won't
> find a cool control panel.
>
> These are the technologies that Barracuda uses in their "appliances."
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/2010 4:53 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
> process
>> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are
> ones that
>> continually get updated.
>>
>> This might help:
>> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
>>
>> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-25 Thread Glenn Kelley
fully brandable as well :-)


On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

> Maia MailGuard is a very nice frontend/control panel for it.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>
> I've been running a similar setup on Gentoo Linux.
>
> MySQL
> dbmail
> postfix
> spamassassin
> fuzzyOCR
> amavisd-new
> clamav
>
> It all just works, its stable and not too hard to manage.  You won't
> find a cool control panel.
>
> These are the technologies that Barracuda uses in their "appliances."
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/2010 4:53 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
> process
>> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are
> ones that
>> continually get updated.
>>
>> This might help:
>> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
>>
>> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
>>
>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-25 Thread Chuck Hogg
Maia MailGuard is a very nice frontend/control panel for it.  

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?


I've been running a similar setup on Gentoo Linux.

MySQL
dbmail
postfix
spamassassin
fuzzyOCR
amavisd-new
clamav

It all just works, its stable and not too hard to manage.  You won't 
find a cool control panel.

These are the technologies that Barracuda uses in their "appliances."




On 3/24/2010 4:53 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>  Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
process
> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are
ones that
> continually get updated.
>
>  This might help:
> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
>
> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
>





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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-25 Thread Curtis Maurand

Go to this page and look for "scam.sh"

http://it.dennyhalim.com/2009/02/postfix-postgrey-clamsmtp-sanesecurity.html

the scam.sh does a great job of getting new rules and some really good 
ones.  I don't get much spam and not too many false positives, either.

--C

On 3/24/2010 9:27 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
> Where do you get SA rules from?  We were using SARE, but they don't
> appear to be maintained anymore.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Kristian
>
> On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 18:50 -0400, Justin Wilson wrote:
>
>> The big thing about any spam solution is the ability to ³learn².
>> Everynight we have SpamAssassin go out and download new rules from a couple
>> of different sites.   Between this and the Amavis updates it keeps on top of
>> things quite well.  Plus we also have greylisting on the higher hit servers
>> as well as IP blacklists of known spammers. Most of these are APNIC ips.
>> What many people fail to do is make sure their secondary MX is just as good
>> as filtering spam as the primary is. Another tactic is to have a Mikrotik
>> with some rules that say if you receive X amount of connections from a
>> single IP to your mail server(s) block that IP for X amount of minutes.
>>
>>  Justin
>> -- 
>> Justin Wilson
>> http://www.mtin.net
>> http://www.metrospan.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Chuck Hogg
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List
>> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:36:39 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>> I'm using it on a few domains...and before I push it to the enterprise
>> level, I just wanted to see how many others are using it.  I know that
>> Barracuda servers are essentially SpamAssasin, amavis/clamAV, with a new
>> frontend and modifications to make it the more enterprise class server.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck Hogg
>> Shelby Broadband
>> 502-722-9292
>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Justin Wilson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:53 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>  Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
>> process
>> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones
>> that
>> continually get updated.
>>
>>  This might help:
>> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
>>
>> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
>>  
>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-25 Thread Curtis Maurand

I've been running a similar setup on Gentoo Linux.

MySQL
dbmail
postfix
spamassassin
fuzzyOCR
amavisd-new
clamav

It all just works, its stable and not too hard to manage.  You won't 
find a cool control panel.

These are the technologies that Barracuda uses in their "appliances."




On 3/24/2010 4:53 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>  Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the process
> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones that
> continually get updated.
>
>  This might help:
> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
>
> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
>




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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Where do you get SA rules from?  We were using SARE, but they don't
appear to be maintained anymore.

Thanks,

-Kristian

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 18:50 -0400, Justin Wilson wrote:
> The big thing about any spam solution is the ability to ³learn².
> Everynight we have SpamAssassin go out and download new rules from a couple
> of different sites.   Between this and the Amavis updates it keeps on top of
> things quite well.  Plus we also have greylisting on the higher hit servers
> as well as IP blacklists of known spammers. Most of these are APNIC ips.
> What many people fail to do is make sure their secondary MX is just as good
> as filtering spam as the primary is. Another tactic is to have a Mikrotik
> with some rules that say if you receive X amount of connections from a
> single IP to your mail server(s) block that IP for X amount of minutes.
> 
> Justin
> -- 
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net
> http://www.metrospan.net
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chuck Hogg 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:36:39 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
> 
> I'm using it on a few domains...and before I push it to the enterprise
> level, I just wanted to see how many others are using it.  I know that
> Barracuda servers are essentially SpamAssasin, amavis/clamAV, with a new
> frontend and modifications to make it the more enterprise class server.
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Justin Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
> 
> Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
> process
> of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones
> that
> continually get updated.
> 
> This might help:
> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
> 
> BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.




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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread KosiNet Wireless
We're using a mix of ClamAV, and SpamAssassin for the most part. A good 
friend / ex-employee set ours up and it just runs. (Very well I might add) I 
also have (5) RBL list / blocks using our SonicWall at the Edge. The 
SonicWall alone blocks over 2 million a Month. Good solutions, in my 
opinion, but we still get some Spam coming through. But on the other hand, 
we haven't had a single complaint about losing / blocking good Email either.

-Gary-



- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Hogg" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?


I've seen some ISPs that block the initial connection from an IP address. 
Once they reconnect on the second time in X minutes, they are added to an 
address list of allowed SMTP servers.  Typically, the spam bots kill the 
message once it has to reconnect is the reasoning...while I am not sure that 
this works that well.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

The big thing about any spam solution is the ability to ³learn².
Everynight we have SpamAssassin go out and download new rules from a couple
of different sites.   Between this and the Amavis updates it keeps on top of
things quite well.  Plus we also have greylisting on the higher hit servers
as well as IP blacklists of known spammers. Most of these are APNIC ips.
What many people fail to do is make sure their secondary MX is just as good
as filtering spam as the primary is. Another tactic is to have a Mikrotik
with some rules that say if you receive X amount of connections from a
single IP to your mail server(s) block that IP for X amount of minutes.

Justin
-- 
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http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: Chuck Hogg 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:36:39 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

I'm using it on a few domains...and before I push it to the enterprise
level, I just wanted to see how many others are using it.  I know that
Barracuda servers are essentially SpamAssasin, amavis/clamAV, with a new
frontend and modifications to make it the more enterprise class server.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
process
of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones
that
continually get updated.

This might help:
http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4

BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:54:40 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are
doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


Other than "a site that hasn't been updated in over a year," what am I
looking for/at?

David Smith
MVN.net





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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've seen some ISPs that block the initial connection from an IP address.  Once 
they reconnect on the second time in X minutes, they are added to an address 
list of allowed SMTP servers.  Typically, the spam bots kill the message once 
it has to reconnect is the reasoning...while I am not sure that this works that 
well.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

The big thing about any spam solution is the ability to ³learn².
Everynight we have SpamAssassin go out and download new rules from a couple
of different sites.   Between this and the Amavis updates it keeps on top of
things quite well.  Plus we also have greylisting on the higher hit servers
as well as IP blacklists of known spammers. Most of these are APNIC ips.
What many people fail to do is make sure their secondary MX is just as good
as filtering spam as the primary is. Another tactic is to have a Mikrotik
with some rules that say if you receive X amount of connections from a
single IP to your mail server(s) block that IP for X amount of minutes.

Justin
-- 
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http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: Chuck Hogg 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:36:39 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

I'm using it on a few domains...and before I push it to the enterprise
level, I just wanted to see how many others are using it.  I know that
Barracuda servers are essentially SpamAssasin, amavis/clamAV, with a new
frontend and modifications to make it the more enterprise class server.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
process
of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones
that
continually get updated.

This might help:
http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4

BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:54:40 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are
doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


Other than "a site that hasn't been updated in over a year," what am I
looking for/at?

David Smith
MVN.net





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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Justin Wilson
The big thing about any spam solution is the ability to ³learn².
Everynight we have SpamAssassin go out and download new rules from a couple
of different sites.   Between this and the Amavis updates it keeps on top of
things quite well.  Plus we also have greylisting on the higher hit servers
as well as IP blacklists of known spammers. Most of these are APNIC ips.
What many people fail to do is make sure their secondary MX is just as good
as filtering spam as the primary is. Another tactic is to have a Mikrotik
with some rules that say if you receive X amount of connections from a
single IP to your mail server(s) block that IP for X amount of minutes.

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From: Chuck Hogg 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:36:39 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

I'm using it on a few domains...and before I push it to the enterprise
level, I just wanted to see how many others are using it.  I know that
Barracuda servers are essentially SpamAssasin, amavis/clamAV, with a new
frontend and modifications to make it the more enterprise class server.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
process
of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones
that
continually get updated.

This might help:
http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4

BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:54:40 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are
doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


Other than "a site that hasn't been updated in over a year," what am I
looking for/at?

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MVN.net





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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Chuck Hogg
I'm using it on a few domains...and before I push it to the enterprise
level, I just wanted to see how many others are using it.  I know that
Barracuda servers are essentially SpamAssasin, amavis/clamAV, with a new
frontend and modifications to make it the more enterprise class server.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the
process
of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones
that
continually get updated.

This might help:
http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4

BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:54:40 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are
doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


Other than "a site that hasn't been updated in over a year," what am I
looking for/at?

David Smith
MVN.net





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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Chuck Hogg
Well...the software it suggests configuring and using is updated.  It
really is a walkthrough of setting up
SpamAssassin/Amavis/RoundCub/PostFix/FreeBSD...

The software itself is up to date, the walkthroughs don't really change
much for the configuration.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are
doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


Other than "a site that hasn't been updated in over a year," what am I
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Justin Wilson
Chuck turned me on to PurpleHat a month of so ago. We are in the process
of testing it on some domains.  Most of the packages within it are ones that
continually get updated.

This might help:
http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4

BTW: We are running it in a Virtual Machine and so far so good.
-- 
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http://www.metrospan.net



From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:54:40 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


Other than "a site that hasn't been updated in over a year," what am I
looking for/at?

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 13:50, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are doing
> PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org


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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Chuck Hogg
While I still have my Barracuda device (600SPF), how many of you are doing 
PurpleHat?  http://www.purplehat.org 

I started switching domains over to it and have been having great success.  I 
do however have the capability to manage that type of server, some of you may 
not have...and the Barracuda device is a good fit.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Sounds like a great company to boycott.


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From: "Eric Rogers" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:15 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

> I will second that.  We are a reseller as well and we had someone that had 
> purchased one on e-Bay that called us about renewal.  When we called 
> Barracuda to re-up it, when we gave them the serial number, they knew it 
> was on ebay and had disabled the unit.  They have people that actively 
> watch those sites and disable them as they find them.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Justin Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>Last I knew you could not buy a Barracuda second hand and get updates.
> One of the sucky things about their policies.
>
>Justin
> -- 
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net
> http://www.metrospan.net
>
>
>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gino Villarini" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>>> Can you help out?
>>>
>>> I got a 4 year old 300 unit, IIRC we bought it 2nd hand.  We need to
>>> renovate the updates subscription, Barracuda would not allow it without
>>> a hefty ($3500+) Hardware Replacement Subscription
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>>
>>> We are as well.
>>>
>>> -Gary-
>>>
>>> ga...@kingoffice.com
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:04, Gino Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone here a reseller of Barracuda for Annual Updates?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe Mac Dearman still is a Barracuda reseller, as well as a
>>> WISPA
>>>> member. Here's his Web site:
>>>> http://inetsouth.com/
>>>>
>>>> David Smith
>>>> MVN.net
>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Sounds like a great company to boycott.


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From: "Eric Rogers" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:15 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

> I will second that.  We are a reseller as well and we had someone that had 
> purchased one on e-Bay that called us about renewal.  When we called 
> Barracuda to re-up it, when we gave them the serial number, they knew it 
> was on ebay and had disabled the unit.  They have people that actively 
> watch those sites and disable them as they find them.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Justin Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>Last I knew you could not buy a Barracuda second hand and get updates.
> One of the sucky things about their policies.
>
>Justin
> -- 
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net
> http://www.metrospan.net
>
>
>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gino Villarini" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>>> Can you help out?
>>>
>>> I got a 4 year old 300 unit, IIRC we bought it 2nd hand.  We need to
>>> renovate the updates subscription, Barracuda would not allow it without
>>> a hefty ($3500+) Hardware Replacement Subscription
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>>
>>> We are as well.
>>>
>>> -Gary-
>>>
>>> ga...@kingoffice.com
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:04, Gino Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone here a reseller of Barracuda for Annual Updates?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe Mac Dearman still is a Barracuda reseller, as well as a
>>> WISPA
>>>> member. Here's his Web site:
>>>> http://inetsouth.com/
>>>>
>>>> David Smith
>>>> MVN.net
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Eric Rogers
I will second that.  We are a reseller as well and we had someone that had 
purchased one on e-Bay that called us about renewal.  When we called Barracuda 
to re-up it, when we gave them the serial number, they knew it was on ebay and 
had disabled the unit.  They have people that actively watch those sites and 
disable them as they find them.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Last I knew you could not buy a Barracuda second hand and get updates.
One of the sucky things about their policies.

Justin
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>
>> Can you help out?
>>
>> I got a 4 year old 300 unit, IIRC we bought it 2nd hand.  We need to
>> renovate the updates subscription, Barracuda would not allow it without
>> a hefty ($3500+) Hardware Replacement Subscription
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>> We are as well.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>> ga...@kingoffice.com
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:04, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone here a reseller of Barracuda for Annual Updates?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe Mac Dearman still is a Barracuda reseller, as well as a
>> WISPA
>>> member. Here's his Web site:
>>> http://inetsouth.com/
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Justin Wilson
Last I knew you could not buy a Barracuda second hand and get updates.
One of the sucky things about their policies.

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> - Original Message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
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>
>> Can you help out?
>>
>> I got a 4 year old 300 unit, IIRC we bought it 2nd hand.  We need to
>> renovate the updates subscription, Barracuda would not allow it without
>> a hefty ($3500+) Hardware Replacement Subscription
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>> We are as well.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
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>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:04, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>>
 Anyone here a reseller of Barracuda for Annual Updates?

>>>
>>> I believe Mac Dearman still is a Barracuda reseller, as well as a
>> WISPA
>>> member. Here's his Web site:
>>> http://inetsouth.com/
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Exactly, we are using it for outgoing filtering

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

Things like that make you ask "What alternative solutions are there?"

On 3/23/10, KosiNet Wireless  wrote:
> Unfortunately, probably not.
>
> One of the reasons we don't really push them anymore is their strict
> policies. (Such as you discovered.) We got stuck with a unit that was
on an
> Eval, the customer went out of business shortly after we registered
the unit
> to them. (Less than 90 days) Barracuda would not let us re-sell /
> re-register that unit to anyone else. (At least not without the large
> fees..)
>
> We're now using it for our Bandwidth Shaper.
>
> -Gary-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>
>> Can you help out?
>>
>> I got a 4 year old 300 unit, IIRC we bought it 2nd hand.  We need to
>> renovate the updates subscription, Barracuda would not allow it
without
>> a hefty ($3500+) Hardware Replacement Subscription
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>> We are as well.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>> ga...@kingoffice.com
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:04, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone here a reseller of Barracuda for Annual Updates?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe Mac Dearman still is a Barracuda reseller, as well as a
>> WISPA
>>> member. Here's his Web site:
>>> http://inetsouth.com/
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Barracuda Updates?

2010-03-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Things like that make you ask "What alternative solutions are there?"

On 3/23/10, KosiNet Wireless  wrote:
> Unfortunately, probably not.
>
> One of the reasons we don't really push them anymore is their strict
> policies. (Such as you discovered.) We got stuck with a unit that was on an
> Eval, the customer went out of business shortly after we registered the unit
> to them. (Less than 90 days) Barracuda would not let us re-sell /
> re-register that unit to anyone else. (At least not without the large
> fees..)
>
> We're now using it for our Bandwidth Shaper.
>
> -Gary-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>
>
>> Can you help out?
>>
>> I got a 4 year old 300 unit, IIRC we bought it 2nd hand.  We need to
>> renovate the updates subscription, Barracuda would not allow it without
>> a hefty ($3500+) Hardware Replacement Subscription
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>> We are as well.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>> ga...@kingoffice.com
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Barracuda Updates?
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 16:04, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>>
 Anyone here a reseller of Barracuda for Annual Updates?

>>>
>>> I believe Mac Dearman still is a Barracuda reseller, as well as a
>> WISPA
>>> member. Here's his Web site:
>>> http://inetsouth.com/
>>>
>>> David Smith
>>> MVN.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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