Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-10 Thread Scott Lambert
We had snow build up on our first AF24 link once. The unit it built-up on was facing directly into the wind. The snow was very wet and probably more sleet than snow at times. I was in another town at the time. I had a weather stripped bed cover on my truck with Christmas packages inside.

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-10 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2015 10:42:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues Naw I have yet to have my 1.5 mile airFiber go down or even de-modulate past 6x in rain. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/9/15 11:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote: good luck

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-10 Thread Mike Hammett
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:06:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues You must not get very heavy rains or just put it up yesterday. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-10 Thread Matt Hoppes
: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 10:42:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues Naw I have yet to have my 1.5 mile airFiber go down or even de-modulate past 6x in rain. Matt Hoppes Director

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Robert Clark rcl...@boltinternet.com wrote: Looking at acquiring AirFiber back haul but I am concerned that the front of the antenna is very flat and that snow would stick to it and degrade and possibly take down the link? Has anyone seen this We will be

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
heard people talk about the never wet product also. never tried it, yet. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Patrick Narkinsky patr...@narkinsky.com wrote: Someone suggested to me coating a satellite dish with RainX... Never tried it. On Friday, January 9, 2015, Josh Reynolds

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
Naw I have yet to have my 1.5 mile airFiber go down or even de-modulate past 6x in rain. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/9/15 11:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote: good luck with 99.999% uptime if it rains a lot in your area. On Fri, Jan 9,

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
That's right on... hmmm interesting. On 1/9/15 11:48 AM, Adair Winter wrote: Mine is actually 2.77 miles and it at -60 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: What signal levels do you have on your 1.5 mile hop?

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
The ITU method is overly simplified. Many would argue Crane's method was more accurate. ( For the sheer sake of argument) We have found bay fog to be far better at disruption than any rains we have here. Even tidal shifts on open water shots don't mess with our links as much as bay fog does.

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Phil Curnutt
General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues My AirFiber 24’s are 3 5 miles here in the northern plains with no issue with the snow. Someone said snow is transparent and I’d agree, but the rain sure kicks us once in a while Heith *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Patrick Narkinsky
Someone suggested to me coating a satellite dish with RainX... Never tried it. On Friday, January 9, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Snow is RF transparent (virtually). Melting, wet snow can attenuate the signal at 24ghz pretty well. Here in Alaska we hardly ever have an AF24

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
Not sure where you are physically But I have a 1.5 mile and 2.7 mile airFiber link and have yet to have either of them even modulate down beyond 6x through sticky wet snow. On 1/9/15 11:28 AM, Robert Clark wrote: Looking at acquiring AirFiber back haul but I am concerned that the front of the

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
Mine is actually 2.77 miles and it at -60 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: What signal levels do you have on your 1.5 mile hop? On 1/9/15 11:44 AM, Adair Winter wrote: That's because all you get is dainty rain I guess. at .5 to 1 and hour

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
When it rains here, it can really freaking rain. we get some pretty big storms. I just don't want to give people false hope. Make sure you have a back up if it must be up all the time. we had one outage last 45 minutes due to rain along the path. others were 7-15 minutes. frustrating. I also have

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
http://www.texasstormchasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2014-09-05_15-01-56.jpg http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ama/?n=april30storms An example of some of the storms we get. 10-40 miles. These aren't just rain storms they are thunderstroms. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Matt Hoppes

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread heith
My AirFiber 24's are 3 5 miles here in the northern plains with no issue with the snow. Someone said snow is transparent and I'd agree, but the rain sure kicks us once in a while Heith From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Clark Sent:

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Snow is RF transparent (virtually). Melting, wet snow can attenuate the signal at 24ghz pretty well. Here in Alaska we hardly ever have an AF24 go down, and we are right on the coast. It's going to depend on the type of weather you commonly have and the distance of the link. On January 9,

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
you're right, I assumed AF24. oops! On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Clay Stewart cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote: Whooaaa... you mean AF24 or AF5? Yes AF24 has rain fade. Robert did not say which. If it will be a problem (we have not had a real snow yet), I will use one of the

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
That's because all you get is dainty rain I guess. at .5 to 1 and hour along the path, it will drop. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Naw I have yet to have my 1.5 mile airFiber go down or even de-modulate past 6x in rain. Matt Hoppes

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Adair Winter
good luck with 99.999% uptime if it rains a lot in your area. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Robert Clark rcl...@boltinternet.com wrote: Looking at acquiring AirFiber back haul but I am concerned that the front of the antenna is very flat and that snow would stick to it and degrade and

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Clay Stewart
Whooaaa... you mean AF24 or AF5? Yes AF24 has rain fade. Robert did not say which. If it will be a problem (we have not had a real snow yet), I will use one of the new waterproof sprays that is superhydrophobic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPM8OR6W6WE On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Robert

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
What signal levels do you have on your 1.5 mile hop? On 1/9/15 11:44 AM, Adair Winter wrote: That's because all you get is dainty rain I guess. at .5 to 1 and hour along the path, it will drop. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Jim Patient
11:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues My AirFiber 24's are 3 5 miles here in the northern plains with no issue with the snow. Someone said snow is transparent and I'd agree, but the rain sure kicks us once in a while Heith From: wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

2015-01-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
General List wireless@wispa.org, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 11:54:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues The ITU method is overly simplified. Many would argue Crane's method was more accurate. ( For the sheer sake of argument) We have