Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah, why do you think the Feds fund 1 large broadband winner per area? 
Reducing the number of broadband providers way simplifies feds taking 
control over them, if ever needed.  Same thing with meet-me-points between 
middle and last mile located in Schools and government buildings. Critical 
infrastructure is now on Government property to ease Feds gaining access to 
it.

If you ask me... The USA needs to continue to lead by example. Example of a 
Free Internet, Free from Government control.
The last thing the USA should do is try to immulate Egypt's mis-use to 
censor it's people.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet



They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines !

-- Original Message --
From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600

Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then mind
control.





On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband 
li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

   and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
 their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

 Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into .

 ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*

 *www.StLouisBroadband.com*

 *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

 through Egypt..

 Chris

 -Original Message-

 From: Faisal Imtiaz

 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

 To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

 I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam 
 from

 here in the US though.

 :)

 Faisal

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

  Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

  -- Original Message --

  From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

  Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 

  Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 

 
 ***

  Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action

  unprecedented in

  Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered
 service

  providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.

  Critical

  European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be 
  unaffected

  for now.

  But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,

  website,

  school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four

  Egyptian ISPs

  for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the

  world. Link

  Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their

  customers and

  partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 

  At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually

  simultaneous

  withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global

  routing

  table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, 
  leaving


  no

  valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange

  Internet

  traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's
 Internet

  addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 

 
 

 

 

  --

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  Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks

  Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993

  www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-31 Thread Marco Coelho
I don't know how many of you were in this business when 9/11 came about.  A
while after that the internet backbone came to a crawl.  I called a friend
of mine that worked for the same people I used to and he told me about all
the monitoring points the gov just installed at the peer points.  It took
them about a month to fix the performance hit they caused (not too sneaky).
Ya gotta love the NSA...  biggest spook agency in the nation, but most
americans don't know they exist.  NRO only beats them by $$.



On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Yeah, why do you think the Feds fund 1 large broadband winner per area?
 Reducing the number of broadband providers way simplifies feds taking
 control over them, if ever needed.  Same thing with meet-me-points between
 middle and last mile located in Schools and government buildings. Critical
 infrastructure is now on Government property to ease Feds gaining access to
 it.

 If you ask me... The USA needs to continue to lead by example. Example of a
 Free Internet, Free from Government control.
 The last thing the USA should do is try to immulate Egypt's mis-use to
 censor it's people.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet



 They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines !

 -- Original Message --
 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600

 Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we
 speak.
 I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then
 mind
 control.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband
 li...@stlbroadband.com
  wrote:
 
and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
  their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world
 
  Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into .
 
  ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*
 
  *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*
 
  *www.StLouisBroadband.com*
 
  *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/
 
  314-974-5600
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet
 
  They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go
 
  through Egypt..
 
  Chris
 
  -Original Message-
 
  From: Faisal Imtiaz
 
  Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM
 
  To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List
 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet
 
  I am sorry but that is a cheap shot
 
  I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam
  from
 
  here in the US though.
 
  :)
 
  Faisal
 
  On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
 wrote:
 
   Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.
 
  
 
   -- Original Message --
 
   From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
 
   Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 
   Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800
 
  
 
   Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.
 
  
 
  
 
 ***
 
   Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action
 
   unprecedented in
 
   Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered
  service
 
   providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.
 
   Critical
 
   European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be
   unaffected
 
   for now.
 
   But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,
 
   website,
 
   school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four
 
   Egyptian ISPs
 
   for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the
 
   world. Link
 
   Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their
 
   customers and
 
   partners are, for the moment, off the air.
 
  
 
   At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually
 
   simultaneous
 
   withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's
 global
 
   routing
 
   table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn,
   leaving
 
 
   no
 
   valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange
 
   Internet
 
   traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's
  Internet
 
   addresses are now unreachable, worldwide

Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-31 Thread David Weddell
(Somewhat of a soapbox)

The whole stimulus plan was the first step to reward a few winners. When 
you see the red tape attached to stimulus awards, it should make one run far 
away. We applied because consultants convinced us that it would be a way to 
fund our rural areas. We, Indiana WISPA, heard a great message a few weeks ago 
at our statewide meeting from Dan Picker of Purewave on how stimulus funds were 
the biggest disaster towards stimulating anything. Those of us that wasted time 
applying for funds kept from ordering equipment, making commitments to build 
out our network in the same manner that got us where we were already and we all 
suffered for the delay. Suppliers had the worst year and equipment 
manufacturers sat idles. Now we see how a government can control the entire 
Internet business with one switch. The sad thing is, we are down to a handful 
of real Internet providers that we buy our services from in the US. How long 
will it be before the Government will be able to shut us off l
 ike they did in Egypt?


David Weddell

(stepping off the soapbox and watching my back)

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:01 AM
To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

Yeah, why do you think the Feds fund 1 large broadband winner per area?
Reducing the number of broadband providers way simplifies feds taking
control over them, if ever needed.  Same thing with meet-me-points between
middle and last mile located in Schools and government buildings. Critical
infrastructure is now on Government property to ease Feds gaining access to
it.

If you ask me... The USA needs to continue to lead by example. Example of a
Free Internet, Free from Government control.
The last thing the USA should do is try to immulate Egypt's mis-use to
censor it's people.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet



They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines !

-- Original Message --
From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600

Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then mind
control.





On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband
li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

   and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
 their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

 Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into .

 ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*

 *www.StLouisBroadband.com*

 *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

 through Egypt..

 Chris

 -Original Message-

 From: Faisal Imtiaz

 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

 To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

 I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam
 from

 here in the US though.

 :)

 Faisal

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

  Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

  -- Original Message --

  From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

  Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 

  Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 

 
 ***

  Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action

  unprecedented in

  Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered
 service

  providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.

  Critical

  European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be
  unaffected

  for now.

  But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,

  website,

  school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four

  Egyptian ISPs

  for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the

  world. Link

Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
The good news is

Although there are negative forces against us, there are still folks in 
Congress and house/commerce committees that can understand our side, to 
preserve the structure of the INternet and the providers that truely 
understand how to operate it optimally. The easiest way to shut down or 
censor the Internet is via BGP and DNS.  It was a big victory several months 
ago, when the ISP industry pulled togeather, and shut down the attempt of 
Security and Copyright agencies to hi-jack control of DNS via legislation.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: David Weddell da...@omnicity.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; spie...@avolve.net
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet


 (Somewhat of a soapbox)

 The whole stimulus plan was the first step to reward a few winners. 
 When you see the red tape attached to stimulus awards, it should make one 
 run far away. We applied because consultants convinced us that it would 
 be a way to fund our rural areas. We, Indiana WISPA, heard a great message 
 a few weeks ago at our statewide meeting from Dan Picker of Purewave on 
 how stimulus funds were the biggest disaster towards stimulating anything. 
 Those of us that wasted time applying for funds kept from ordering 
 equipment, making commitments to build out our network in the same manner 
 that got us where we were already and we all suffered for the delay. 
 Suppliers had the worst year and equipment manufacturers sat idles. Now we 
 see how a government can control the entire Internet business with one 
 switch. The sad thing is, we are down to a handful of real Internet 
 providers that we buy our services from in the US. How long will it be 
 before the Government will be able to shut us off l
 ike they did in Egypt?


 David Weddell

 (stepping off the soapbox and watching my back)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:01 AM
 To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 Yeah, why do you think the Feds fund 1 large broadband winner per area?
 Reducing the number of broadband providers way simplifies feds taking
 control over them, if ever needed.  Same thing with meet-me-points between
 middle and last mile located in Schools and government buildings. Critical
 infrastructure is now on Government property to ease Feds gaining access 
 to
 it.

 If you ask me... The USA needs to continue to lead by example. Example of 
 a
 Free Internet, Free from Government control.
 The last thing the USA should do is try to immulate Egypt's mis-use to
 censor it's people.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet



 They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines !

 -- Original Message --
 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600

Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we 
speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then 
mind
control.





On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband
li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

   and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
 their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

 Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into .

 ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*

 *www.StLouisBroadband.com*

 *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

 through Egypt..

 Chris

 -Original Message-

 From: Faisal Imtiaz

 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

 To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

 I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam
 from

 here in the US though.

 :)

 Faisal

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

  Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

  -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-31 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 1/31/2011 10:33 AM, David Weddell wrote:
(Somewhat of a soapbox)

The whole stimulus plan was the first step to reward a few 
winners. When you see the red tape attached to stimulus awards, it 
should make one run far away. We applied because consultants 
convinced us that it would be a way to fund our rural areas. We, 
Indiana WISPA, heard a great message a few weeks ago at our 
statewide meeting from Dan Picker of Purewave on how stimulus funds 
were the biggest disaster towards stimulating anything. Those of us 
that wasted time applying for funds kept from ordering equipment, 
making commitments to build out our network in the same manner that 
got us where we were already and we all suffered for the delay. 
Suppliers had the worst year and equipment manufacturers sat idles. 
Now we see how a government can control the entire Internet business 
with one switch. The sad thing is, we are down to a handful of 
real Internet providers that we buy our services from in the US. 
How long will it be before the Government will be able to shut us off l
  ike they did in Egypt?


Not all of the stimulus grants were so problematic.  Some will be 
very useful to the WISP community.  Some of the middle mile networks 
will make backhaul a lot easier, providing the first competition to 
very very expensive ILEC Special Access.  Maine's Three Ring Binder 
and the Massachusetts Broadband Institute, for instance, are running 
fiber into rural areas with the hope that WISPs will pick up some of 
the last mile (which alas BTOP round 2 would not pay for).

However, the BIP program was largely a handout to the usual rural 
ILECs, since it favored existing RUS borrowers (like ILECs).  Still, 
some competitive providers did get a piece of the action.

As to protection against shutoff and blocking, we need to think about 
how fragile the Internet architecture is, and how to work around its 
weak points.  I doubt that a kill switch would be very effective 
here, but the more the Internet is concentrated in the hands of a few 
providers, the easier it will be.  I wonder if the FCC's strongly 
anticompetitive push starting early in 2001 was being encouraged by 
the security apparat.


  --
  Fred Goldsteink1io   fgoldstein at ionary.com
  ionary Consulting  http://www.ionary.com/
  +1 617 795 2701 




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-30 Thread Marco Coelho
Here's a slashdot article:

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/30/0044222/Internet-Kill-Switch-Back-On-the-US-Legislative-Agenda



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from here 
in the US though.

:)

Faisal

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

 Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800
 
 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.
 
 ***
 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action unprecedented 
 in 
 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service 
 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. 
 Critical 
 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for 
 now. 
 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website, 
 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian 
 ISPs 
 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. 
 Link 
 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers 
 and 
 partners are, for the moment, off the air.
 
 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually 
 simultaneous 
 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global 
 routing 
 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no 
 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange 
 Internet 
 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet 
 addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
 Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks
 Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
 www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread chris
They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go 
through Egypt..

Chris

-Original Message- 
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM
To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from 
here in the US though.

:)

Faisal

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

 Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 -- Original Message --
 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 ***
 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action 
 unprecedented in
 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service
 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. 
 Critical
 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected 
 for now.
 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, 
 website,
 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four 
 Egyptian ISPs
 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the 
 world. Link
 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their 
 customers and
 partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually 
 simultaneous
 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global 
 routing
 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving 
 no
 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange 
 Internet
 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet
 addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 


 -- 
 Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
 Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks
 Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread St. Louis Broadband
 and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs for their
Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into .

Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
www.ShowMeBroadband.com
www.StLouisBroadband.com
www.FarmingtonForum.com http://farmingtonforum.com/ 

314-974-5600


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go 
through Egypt..

Chris

-Original Message- 
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM
To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from 
here in the US though.

:)

Faisal

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

 Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 -- Original Message --
 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.



***
 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action 
 unprecedented in
 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service
 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. 
 Critical
 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected 
 for now.
 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, 
 website,
 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four 
 Egyptian ISPs
 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the 
 world. Link
 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their 
 customers and
 partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually 
 simultaneous
 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global 
 routing
 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving 
 no
 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange 
 Internet
 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet
 addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.






 -- 
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 Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread Marco Coelho
Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then mind
control.





On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

   and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
 their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

 Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into …

 ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*

 *www.StLouisBroadband.com*

 *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

 through Egypt..

 Chris

 -Original Message-

 From: Faisal Imtiaz

 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

 To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

 I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from

 here in the US though.

 :)

 Faisal

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

  Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

  -- Original Message --

  From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

  Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 

  Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 

 
 ***

  Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action

  unprecedented in

  Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered
 service

  providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.

  Critical

  European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected

  for now.

  But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,

  website,

  school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four

  Egyptian ISPs

  for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the

  world. Link

  Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their

  customers and

  partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 

  At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually

  simultaneous

  withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global

  routing

  table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving


  no

  valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange

  Internet

  traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's
 Internet

  addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 

 
 

 

 

  --

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  Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks

  Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993

  www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Article I published on my blog:
http://farmingtonmo.us/blog/2151/the-state-of-the-net/

 

 

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www.ShowMeBroadband.com

www.StLouisBroadband.com

 http://farmingtonforum.com/ www.FarmingtonForum.com

 

314-974-5600

 

From: Marco Coelho [mailto:coelh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:19 AM
To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 

Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then mind
control.






On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband
li...@stlbroadband.com wrote:

 and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs for their
Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into .

Victoria Proffer - President/CEO

www.ShowMeBroadband.com

www.StLouisBroadband.com

 http://farmingtonforum.com/ www.FarmingtonForum.com

314-974-5600

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go 

through Egypt..

Chris

-Original Message- 

From: Faisal Imtiaz

Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from 

here in the US though.

:)

Faisal

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

 Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

 -- Original Message --

 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

 Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 

 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 



***

 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action 

 unprecedented in

 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service

 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. 

 Critical

 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected 

 for now.

 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, 

 website,

 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four 

 Egyptian ISPs

 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the 

 world. Link

 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their 

 customers and

 partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 

 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually 

 simultaneous

 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global 

 routing

 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving 

 no

 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange 

 Internet

 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet

 addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 





 

 

 -- 

 Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.

 Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks

 Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993

 www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com

 

 

 

 

 





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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Could, but highly unlikely.  There is far too much middle mile\long-haul 
competition and too many independent ISPs for that to happen soon.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/29/2011 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:


and government office that*/relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs/*for 
their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world


Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into...

***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

___www.ShowMeBroadband.com_file://www.ShowMeBroadband.com

___www.StLouisBroadband.com_file://www.StLouisBroadband.com

___www.FarmingtonForum.com_http://farmingtonforum.com/

314-974-5600

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com

Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

through Egypt..

Chris

-Original Message-

From: Faisal Imtiaz

Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam 
from


here in the US though.

:)

Faisal

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

 Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.



 -- Original Message --

 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

 Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800



 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.



 
***


 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action

 unprecedented in

 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered 
service


 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.

 Critical

 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected

 for now.

 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,

 website,

 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four

 Egyptian ISPs

 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the

 world. Link

 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their

 customers and

 partners are, for the moment, off the air.



 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually

 simultaneous

 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global

 routing

 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, 
leaving


 no

 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange

 Internet

 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's 
Internet


 addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.



 







 --

 Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.

 Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks

 Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993

 www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com











 



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread Stuart Pierce

They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines !

-- Original Message --
From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600

Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then mind
control.





On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

   and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
 their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

 Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into …

 ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*

 *www.StLouisBroadband.com*

 *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

 through Egypt..

 Chris

 -Original Message-

 From: Faisal Imtiaz

 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

 To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

 I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from

 here in the US though.

 :)

 Faisal

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

  Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

  -- Original Message --

  From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

  Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 

  Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 

 
 ***

  Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action

  unprecedented in

  Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered
 service

  providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.

  Critical

  European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected

  for now.

  But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,

  website,

  school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four

  Egyptian ISPs

  for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the

  world. Link

  Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their

  customers and

  partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 

  At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually

  simultaneous

  withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global

  routing

  table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving


  no

  valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange

  Internet

  traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's
 Internet

  addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 

 
 

 

 

  --

  Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.

  Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks

  Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993

  www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Stuart Pierce
Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

-- Original Message --
From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

***
Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action unprecedented 
in 
Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service 
providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. Critical 
European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for 
now. 
But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website, 
school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian 
ISPs 
for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. 
Link 
Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers 
and 
partners are, for the moment, off the air.

At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous 
withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global routing 
table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no 
valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet 
traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet 
addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.




-- 
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Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks
Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Bob Moldashel
Now if we could just get Nigeria and Romania to have an uprising the  
Internet would be safe once again!


BTW. Great article this month in 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 Romania that  
has more Western Union offices than New York has Starbucks all due to  
Internet scams


Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-Original message-
From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 13:03:26 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

-- Original Message --
From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800


Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 

***
Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action  
unprecedented in 
Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service 
providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.  
Critical 
European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for  
now. 
But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website, 
school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian  
ISPs 
for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world.  
Link 
Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers  
and 

partners are, for the moment, off the air.

At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually  
simultaneous 
withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global  
routing 
table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no  


valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange  
Internet 
traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet 
addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.


 





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Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Fred Goldstein

At 1/28/2011 08:13 AM, BobM wrote:

BTW. Great article this month in 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 
Romania that has more Western Union offices than New York has 
Starbucks all due to Internet scams

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


Yes, 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 is one of my favorite newspapers too.
;-)

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uses something reminiscent of the LTRS/FIGS shift on the 3-row Baudot 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Does anyone know if the PSTN is still operating in Egypt?

I'm trying to get ahold of my sister who was attending school there. I received 
one email a few days ago just as the riots were starting, but haven't heard 
anything since.

The landline and cell numbers I had for her are either no good, or out due to 
phone infrastructure failure. I haven't called them in a while. Usually we just 
email or Skype.

--
Blake Covarrubias

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

 At 1/28/2011 08:13 AM, BobM wrote:
 
 BTW. Great article this month in 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 Romania that 
 has more Western Union offices than New York has Starbucks all due to 
 Internet scams
 Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
 
 Yes, 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 is one of my favorite newspapers too.
 ;-)
 
 (Hmmm, the Droid doesn't have a numeric row on its hard keyboard; it uses 
 something reminiscent of the LTRS/FIGS shift on the 3-row Baudot keyboards of 
 the past.)
  --
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  ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Jack Unger
I don't know but this link might yield more information. 
http://twitter.com/#search?q=egypt

jack


On 1/28/2011 1:06 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 Does anyone know if the PSTN is still operating in Egypt?

 I'm trying to get ahold of my sister who was attending school there. I 
 received one email a few days ago just as the riots were starting, but 
 haven't heard anything since.

 The landline and cell numbers I had for her are either no good, or out due to 
 phone infrastructure failure. I haven't called them in a while. Usually we 
 just email or Skype.

 --
 Blake Covarrubias

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

 At 1/28/2011 08:13 AM, BobM wrote:

 BTW. Great article this month in 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 Romania 
 that has more Western Union offices than New York has Starbucks all due to 
 Internet scams
 Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
 Yes, 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 is one of my favorite newspapers too.
 ;-)

 (Hmmm, the Droid doesn't have a numeric row on its hard keyboard; it uses 
 something reminiscent of the LTRS/FIGS shift on the 3-row Baudot keyboards 
 of the past.)
   --
   Fred Goldsteink1io   fgoldstein at ionary.com
   ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/
   +1 617 795 2701



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Jack Unger
Here's more http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/


On 1/28/2011 1:50 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
 I don't know but this link might yield more information.
 http://twitter.com/#search?q=egypt

 jack


 On 1/28/2011 1:06 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 Does anyone know if the PSTN is still operating in Egypt?

 I'm trying to get ahold of my sister who was attending school there. I 
 received one email a few days ago just as the riots were starting, but 
 haven't heard anything since.

 The landline and cell numbers I had for her are either no good, or out due 
 to phone infrastructure failure. I haven't called them in a while. Usually 
 we just email or Skype.

 --
 Blake Covarrubias

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

 At 1/28/2011 08:13 AM, BobM wrote:

 BTW. Great article this month in 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 Romania 
 that has more Western Union offices than New York has Starbucks all due to 
 Internet scams
 Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
 Yes, 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 is one of my favorite newspapers too.
 ;-)

 (Hmmm, the Droid doesn't have a numeric row on its hard keyboard; it uses 
 something reminiscent of the LTRS/FIGS shift on the 3-row Baudot keyboards 
 of the past.)
--
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Hammett
I think the PSTN is just full.  That darn over-subscription!

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On 1/28/2011 3:06 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 Does anyone know if the PSTN is still operating in Egypt?

 I'm trying to get ahold of my sister who was attending school there. I 
 received one email a few days ago just as the riots were starting, but 
 haven't heard anything since.

 The landline and cell numbers I had for her are either no good, or out due to 
 phone infrastructure failure. I haven't called them in a while. Usually we 
 just email or Skype.

 --
 Blake Covarrubias

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

 At 1/28/2011 08:13 AM, BobM wrote:

 BTW. Great article this month in 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 Romania 
 that has more Western Union offices than New York has Starbucks all due to 
 Internet scams
 Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
 Yes, 2843$ '!=!83 !+975 ! _856 8 is one of my favorite newspapers too.
 ;-)

 (Hmmm, the Droid doesn't have a numeric row on its hard keyboard; it uses 
 something reminiscent of the LTRS/FIGS shift on the 3-row Baudot keyboards 
 of the past.)
   --
   Fred Goldsteink1io   fgoldstein at ionary.com
   ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/
   +1 617 795 2701



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Crawford
Thanks Jack, I'm interested in such governmental actions around the 
world and the ways that it will be worked around.

Frank

On 1/27/2011 9:06 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 ***
 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action unprecedented 
 in
 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service
 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. Critical
 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for 
 now.
 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website,
 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian 
 ISPs
 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. 
 Link
 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers 
 and
 partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous
 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global routing
 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no
 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet
 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet
 addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 





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