Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Jason Wallace (supp...@azii.net) a écrit le [28/04/10 à 23:28]: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason Hi Jason, What do you exactly want to do ? Traffic shape on IP ? ports ? On what kind of device ? Linux ? Mikrotik ? Sure it is Linux, by you question. You may considered in first stage to MARK packets which are important for your business. And then filtered them by means of filters. Consider IMQ if you want to traffic shape ingress and egress. I have some scripts for this kind of stuff : 'ppp customers with different type of service : std, p-t-p, voip' on linux routers. Regards, -- Christophe Lucas - Network Engineer - c.lu...@infosat.tm.fr Tel : +33(0)974.762.595 - Fax : +33(0)2.35.63.48.22 RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 14:27 -0700, Jason Wallace wrote: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; It is RouterOS Specific (currently). I am in the process of porting it to Linux (ImageStream). he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. No longer using PCQ. Perhaps I should update that blog...(I'll do that when I get a round tuit) Currently, the script is using RED qdisc and seems to be MUCH more friendly to the lower end routers. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. This is exactly correct. It was not intended to be a per user approach. The system is (currently) about 130 mangle rules. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
It is RouterOS Specific (currently). I am in the process of porting it to Linux (ImageStream). Let me know when this is done! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 14:27 -0700, Jason Wallace wrote: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; It is RouterOS Specific (currently). I am in the process of porting it to Linux (ImageStream). he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. No longer using PCQ. Perhaps I should update that blog...(I'll do that when I get a round tuit) Currently, the script is using RED qdisc and seems to be MUCH more friendly to the lower end routers. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. This is exactly correct. It was not intended to be a per user approach. The system is (currently) about 130 mangle rules. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 19:45 -0430, Greg Ihnen wrote: Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg, The configuration is static, however there's a lot of intelligence built into this new approach. This script (which is Mikrotik specific) watches traffic and will dynamically shift a stream from one priority to another depending on the behavior of that stream. It will dynamically alter how it handles a particular customer's traffic depending upon other behavior patterns it sees from that customer (this allows us to react to probable encrypted bit torrent scenarios). It handles streaming video (youtube, netflix, google video, hulu, online tv stations) intelligently. There is more, but this is just an overview... -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Is there no script that does something similar that is in the public domain? Even something basic to start with? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
I'm currently using tc in linux but have been debating on loading Mikrotic's RouterOS onto a high-end server and have it handle the QoS for our network as it seems a lot easier to configure. Is anyone else doing this and have you found it to work well? Greg Ihnen wrote: Is there no script that does something similar that is in the public domain? Even something basic to start with? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Dozens of people including myself do QOS on MT with good x86 hardware. We are all very happy. On 4/28/10, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I'm currently using tc in linux but have been debating on loading Mikrotic's RouterOS onto a high-end server and have it handle the QoS for our network as it seems a lot easier to configure. Is anyone else doing this and have you found it to work well? Greg Ihnen wrote: Is there no script that does something similar that is in the public domain? Even something basic to start with? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will "catch" good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
I started my linux experience with Mastershaper - www.mastershaper.org If you can play with a system, set an IP address, have it generate all the rules for you, you'd be able to generate all other rules per IP off of that. The project looked to be dead for a while, but it's getting a little life again. I'd trust the .44 release more than the .6. hope that helps. Mark On 04/28/2010 03:27 PM, Jason Wallace wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will "catch" good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
I would advise MT for traffic shaping. ImageStream and a lot of work can do stuff, too. I'd stay away from anything that takes a lot of effort like tc. 50 bucks will save you a LOT of time. As we all know time=money. On 4/28/10, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
The template itself is quite dynamic but just mention any individual things that require addition attention. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Rick, Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Butch added queue trees and some other stuff. The best thing to do is ask him. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Well all it is is in /ip firewall mangle and /queue tree but that's like saying all I need is Internet. Is that just IP with no DNS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:08 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Butch added queue trees and some other stuff. The best thing to do is ask him. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
Heck, I would've wanted to type all the lines of code he put in there, let alone make sure it works! It wouldve taken me hours if not days! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well all it is is in /ip firewall mangle and /queue tree but that's like saying all I need is Internet. Is that just IP with no DNS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:08 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Butch added queue trees and some other stuff. The best thing to do is ask him. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
I think you mean would not have wanted to... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Heck, I would've wanted to type all the lines of code he put in there, let alone make sure it works! It wouldve taken me hours if not days! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well all it is is in /ip firewall mangle and /queue tree but that's like saying all I need is Internet. Is that just IP with no DNS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:08 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Butch added queue trees and some other stuff. The best thing to do is ask him. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
LOL! See what I mean :) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I think you mean would not have wanted to... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Heck, I would've wanted to type all the lines of code he put in there, let alone make sure it works! It wouldve taken me hours if not days! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well all it is is in /ip firewall mangle and /queue tree but that's like saying all I need is Internet. Is that just IP with no DNS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:08 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Butch added queue trees and some other stuff. The best thing to do is ask him. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision making and changes parameters? Greg On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote: I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously, there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can tailor it to fit your needs? -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will catch good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
