RE: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report
What Madcity doesn't realize is my old employee Tony K is up there having a blast with his Canopy system It's like shooting prarie dogs -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report Why in heaven's name would Madison risk that much of a project on unproven equipment? What kind of track record does Cisco have in mesh? They must not have done a "proof of concept" area first. The 2000 sub initial sub number isn't believable anyway, though. Mesh take rates are nowhere near that high. Someone isn't putting out correct figures. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EarthLink studying muni Wi-Fi business Speaking of limitations, I just read a scathing review of Madison's "MadCity Broadband" muni Wi-Fi project. The system was built by Cell Net and uses Cisco's mesh gear. See here: *http://tinyurl.com/yrz7cb* MadCity Broadband uses a wholesale model. One company, ResTech, signed up 2000 subscribers. All but 700 have cancelled. ResTech is pulling out, leaving Merr.com as the sole resale partner. *According to Galanter, Madison is a pioneer* in developing a citywide broadband system and a proving ground for the equipment, manufactured by Cisco Systems. "It's all so new," she says. "Cisco is using our experience to continue to improve the technology. And Madison's approach is unique - no two cities are thinking about it in the same way." I sure would hate to be a proving ground for Cisco! Best, -- Dylan Oliver -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Earthlink (was Re: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report)
IF they ever get these networks to work correctly my guess would be they will try to get the city government to support them. Until then I would imagine they will be a big money looser for the Co's involved. One of the consequenses of jumping in head first I guess. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Earthlink (was Re: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report) > Looks like Infoworld has their own take on Earthlink... > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20070427/tc_infoworld/88116 > > Interestingly, the article is the first report I have seen in mainstream > press that Earthlink muni has very few customers. > > -Matt > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I don't know why you don't believe the 2000 subscriber figure. The goal of > >> the article is clearly not to pump the system up. > >> > >> > > I for one wouldn't believe it considering the word is that Earthlink > > doesn't even have a total of 2000 paying subscribers across all their > > Wi-Fi networks. > > > > -Matt > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Earthlink (was Re: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report)
Looks like Infoworld has their own take on Earthlink... http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20070427/tc_infoworld/88116 Interestingly, the article is the first report I have seen in mainstream press that Earthlink muni has very few customers. -Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why you don't believe the 2000 subscriber figure. The goal of the article is clearly not to pump the system up. I for one wouldn't believe it considering the word is that Earthlink doesn't even have a total of 2000 paying subscribers across all their Wi-Fi networks. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report
> I don't know why you don't believe the 2000 subscriber figure. The goal of > the article is clearly not to pump the system up. > I for one wouldn't believe it considering the word is that Earthlink doesn't even have a total of 2000 paying subscribers across all their Wi-Fi networks. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RE: Madcity muni report
I don't know why you don't believe the 2000 subscriber figure. The goal of the article is clearly not to pump the system up. The City, for what it's worth, did not risk all that much. "Some employees' time", I think is what the article said - though that could be considerable! Cell Net took most of the burden. On 4/28/07, ralph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why in heaven's name would Madison risk that much of a project on unproven equipment? What kind of track record does Cisco have in mesh? They must not have done a "proof of concept" area first. The 2000 sub initial sub number isn't believable anyway, though. Mesh take rates are nowhere near that high. Someone isn't putting out correct figures. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
