Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
Certainly, licensed wireless links and managed firewall delivered by your team would be cheaper to deliver; faster to deploy; and just as reliable as fiber? Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. John Scrivner wrote: I am afraid they will just build fiber business plans and not give wireless a second thought. Why should they consider wireless if they can get fiber for virtually free? Like I said...Gr. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
I believe you John that they are scared of wireless and are shunning wireless. But I can't help but think that every hospital I go in has lots of wireless. I was up in Oregon Health Sciences and they must have had a cisco ap every 30' of cieling space. John Scrivner wrote: As I have stated before, the health care providers in this area have it in their minds (and their policy manuals) that wireless of any kind will not be suitable for their needs, period. It has nothing to do with technical reality. It has to do with perception and corporate policy. Basically health care interests here are not just saying no, they are saying hell no. It is a hard sell for me at this point and the only vendor who has supplied me with any backup is one I do not even buy from, Bridgewave. They sent me technical DOCs, testimonials, etc. from health care interests. I passed it along to the health care providers in this area and you could hear crickets, right before the next hell no. This is frustrating to say the least. If Alvarion or anyone else wants to help me I am sure I would take the help. It is in all your best interests since I am not the only wireless provider effected by this black-balling of our industry by health care interests in my region. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
Hi John, Just a thought, go and dig up all the horror stories about the back hoe operators that dig up lines and truck drivers that run over poles. And send that to them. I am lucky the fibre that I use belongs to the utility and my NOC is at their Water tower that they need to monitor, so I have redundancy built in. I can't say the same for the hospital half a block away. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: As I have stated before, the health care providers in this area have it in their minds (and their policy manuals) that wireless of any kind will not be suitable for their needs, period. It has nothing to do with technical reality. It has to do with perception and corporate policy. Basically health care interests here are not just saying no, they are saying hell no. It is a hard sell for me at this point and the only vendor who has supplied me with any backup is one I do not even buy from, Bridgewave. They sent me technical DOCs, testimonials, etc. from health care interests. I passed it along to the health care providers in this area and you could hear crickets, right before the next hell no. This is frustrating to say the least. If Alvarion or anyone else wants to help me I am sure I would take the help. It is in all your best interests since I am not the only wireless provider effected by this black-balling of our industry by health care interests in my region. Scriv Peter R. wrote: Certainly, licensed wireless links and managed firewall delivered by your team would be cheaper to deliver; faster to deploy; and just as reliable as fiber? Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. John Scrivner wrote: I am afraid they will just build fiber business plans and not give wireless a second thought. Why should they consider wireless if they can get fiber for virtually free? Like I said...Gr. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
This would be great news for me if the medical community around me did not have a policy against using wireless technology for data communications. Gr Scriv Peter R. wrote: FCC Grants Available for Telehealth And Telemedicine http://www.atsp.org/government/programs.asp?contentID=1895FullStory=. Association of Telehealth Service Providers The FCC has recently announced a two-year pilot program that would fund up to 85% of the costs for the design, construction and use of dedicated broadband networks in order to expand the availability and use of telehealth and telemedicine, particularly in rural areas. Unlike existing rural health subsidy programs, this new program specifically contemplates that major urban health centers would be eligible to participate and receive funding if they include rural health care providers in the network. The benefit for urban hospitals is that they can use the funds to establish direct broadband links with rural providers, thus expanding their reach, while also improving their own telecommunications infrastructure and connecting with other networks and research institutions. The program makes approximately $55-60 million available for each of the two years of the pilot program. The funds come from the existing Rural Health Care Fund, which is part of the federal universal service program. Public and nonprofit health care providers, such as not-for-profit hospitals, may apply for the funds. For-profit health care providers can be part of the network, but they must pay their costs to connect. The FCC will look primarily at two criteria: 1. to what extent does the proposed network include rural health care providers; and 2. what is the business plan for eventually making the network self-sustaining. Thus, the key to a successful application is to pull together as many health care providers - both urban and rural - as possible in order to create regional networks. In this way, urban centers can expand their footprint into rural areas and the rural providers will gain access, via telemedicine, to the sophisticated practices and programs that urban centers provide. The program will also fund high-speed connections to the Internet2, a national broadband network dedicated to universities and research institutions, such as the NIH. Applications for the initial, first-year round of funding will be due sometime in the next couple of months. Applications can also be submitted later for the second year of funding. If accepted into the program by the FCC, the applicant will follow the standard procedures for funding from FCC universal service programs. The funding application must:identify the organization that will be legally and financially responsible for the conduct of activities supported by the fund; identify the goals and objectives of the proposed network (we believe that a proposal that connects multiple rural health care providers over a state or region and describes the types of telemedicine/telehealth services and benefits that can be provided over the network will have a better chance of being accepted); estimate the network's total costs for each year; describe how for-profit network participants will pay their fair share of the network costs; identify the source of financial support and anticipated revenues that will pay for costs not covered by the fund (this could come from increased patient referrals form the rural to urban centers or other fees associated with the provision of telemedicine/telehealth services; also additional funding might be available from state or other grant programs); list the health care facilities that will be included in the network; provide the address, zip code, rural urban commuting area (RUCA) code and phone number for each health care facility participating in the network; indicate previous experience in developing and managing telemedicine programs; provide a project management plan outlining the project�s leadership and management structure, as well as its work plan, schedule and budget; indicate how the telemedicine program will be coordinated throughout the state or region; and indicate to what extent the network can be self-sustaining once established. (Source: Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo P.C.Law Firm, Press Release, January 31, 2007) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
Interesting. I didn't know there was a such thing as a non-profit health care facility. So am I understanding this correctly... They are funding a backbone network, but for-profit health care subscibers (generally everyone) pay for access? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants FCC Grants Available for Telehealth And Telemedicine http://www.atsp.org/government/programs.asp?contentID=1895FullStory=. Association of Telehealth Service Providers The FCC has recently announced a two-year pilot program that would fund up to 85% of the costs for the design, construction and use of dedicated broadband networks in order to expand the availability and use of telehealth and telemedicine, particularly in rural areas. Unlike existing rural health subsidy programs, this new program specifically contemplates that major urban health centers would be eligible to participate and receive funding if they include rural health care providers in the network. The benefit for urban hospitals is that they can use the funds to establish direct broadband links with rural providers, thus expanding their reach, while also improving their own telecommunications infrastructure and connecting with other networks and research institutions. The program makes approximately $55-60 million available for each of the two years of the pilot program. The funds come from the existing Rural Health Care Fund, which is part of the federal universal service program. Public and nonprofit health care providers, such as not-for-profit hospitals, may apply for the funds. For-profit health care providers can be part of the network, but they must pay their costs to connect. The FCC will look primarily at two criteria: 1. to what extent does the proposed network include rural health care providers; and 2. what is the business plan for eventually making the network self-sustaining. Thus, the key to a successful application is to pull together as many health care providers - both urban and rural - as possible in order to create regional networks. In this way, urban centers can expand their footprint into rural areas and the rural providers will gain access, via telemedicine, to the sophisticated practices and programs that urban centers provide. The program will also fund high-speed connections to the Internet2, a national broadband network dedicated to universities and research institutions, such as the NIH. Applications for the initial, first-year round of funding will be due sometime in the next couple of months. Applications can also be submitted later for the second year of funding. If accepted into the program by the FCC, the applicant will follow the standard procedures for funding from FCC universal service programs. The funding application must:identify the organization that will be legally and financially responsible for the conduct of activities supported by the fund; identify the goals and objectives of the proposed network (we believe that a proposal that connects multiple rural health care providers over a state or region and describes the types of telemedicine/telehealth services and benefits that can be provided over the network will have a better chance of being accepted); estimate the network's total costs for each year; describe how for-profit network participants will pay their fair share of the network costs; identify the source of financial support and anticipated revenues that will pay for costs not covered by the fund (this could come from increased patient referrals form the rural to urban centers or other fees associated with the provision of telemedicine/telehealth services; also additional funding might be available from state or other grant programs); list the health care facilities that will be included in the network; provide the address, zip code, rural urban commuting area (RUCA) code and phone number for each health care facility participating in the network; indicate previous experience in developing and managing telemedicine programs; provide a project management plan outlining the project�s leadership and management structure, as well as its work plan, schedule and budget; indicate how the telemedicine program will be coordinated throughout the state or region; and indicate to what extent the network can be self-sustaining once established. (Source: Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo P.C.Law Firm, Press Release, January 31, 2007) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
maybe the free money will change their policies :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants This would be great news for me if the medical community around me did not have a policy against using wireless technology for data communications. Gr Scriv Peter R. wrote: FCC Grants Available for Telehealth And Telemedicine http://www.atsp.org/government/programs.asp?contentID=1895FullStory=. Association of Telehealth Service Providers The FCC has recently announced a two-year pilot program that would fund up to 85% of the costs for the design, construction and use of dedicated broadband networks in order to expand the availability and use of telehealth and telemedicine, particularly in rural areas. Unlike existing rural health subsidy programs, this new program specifically contemplates that major urban health centers would be eligible to participate and receive funding if they include rural health care providers in the network. The benefit for urban hospitals is that they can use the funds to establish direct broadband links with rural providers, thus expanding their reach, while also improving their own telecommunications infrastructure and connecting with other networks and research institutions. The program makes approximately $55-60 million available for each of the two years of the pilot program. The funds come from the existing Rural Health Care Fund, which is part of the federal universal service program. Public and nonprofit health care providers, such as not-for-profit hospitals, may apply for the funds. For-profit health care providers can be part of the network, but they must pay their costs to connect. The FCC will look primarily at two criteria: 1. to what extent does the proposed network include rural health care providers; and 2. what is the business plan for eventually making the network self-sustaining. Thus, the key to a successful application is to pull together as many health care providers - both urban and rural - as possible in order to create regional networks. In this way, urban centers can expand their footprint into rural areas and the rural providers will gain access, via telemedicine, to the sophisticated practices and programs that urban centers provide. The program will also fund high-speed connections to the Internet2, a national broadband network dedicated to universities and research institutions, such as the NIH. Applications for the initial, first-year round of funding will be due sometime in the next couple of months. Applications can also be submitted later for the second year of funding. If accepted into the program by the FCC, the applicant will follow the standard procedures for funding from FCC universal service programs. The funding application must:identify the organization that will be legally and financially responsible for the conduct of activities supported by the fund; identify the goals and objectives of the proposed network (we believe that a proposal that connects multiple rural health care providers over a state or region and describes the types of telemedicine/telehealth services and benefits that can be provided over the network will have a better chance of being accepted); estimate the network's total costs for each year; describe how for-profit network participants will pay their fair share of the network costs; identify the source of financial support and anticipated revenues that will pay for costs not covered by the fund (this could come from increased patient referrals form the rural to urban centers or other fees associated with the provision of telemedicine/telehealth services; also additional funding might be available from state or other grant programs); list the health care facilities that will be included in the network; provide the address, zip code, rural urban commuting area (RUCA) code and phone number for each health care facility participating in the network; indicate previous experience in developing and managing telemedicine programs; provide a project management plan outlining the project�s leadership and management structure, as well as its work plan, schedule and budget; indicate how the telemedicine program will be coordinated throughout the state or region; and indicate to what extent the network can be self-sustaining once established. (Source: Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo P.C.Law Firm, Press Release, January 31, 2007) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants
I am afraid they will just build fiber business plans and not give wireless a second thought. Why should they consider wireless if they can get fiber for virtually free? Like I said...Gr. Scriv Tom DeReggi wrote: maybe the free money will change their policies :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tele-Health Grants This would be great news for me if the medical community around me did not have a policy against using wireless technology for data communications. Gr Scriv Peter R. wrote: FCC Grants Available for Telehealth And Telemedicine http://www.atsp.org/government/programs.asp?contentID=1895FullStory=. Association of Telehealth Service Providers The FCC has recently announced a two-year pilot program that would fund up to 85% of the costs for the design, construction and use of dedicated broadband networks in order to expand the availability and use of telehealth and telemedicine, particularly in rural areas. Unlike existing rural health subsidy programs, this new program specifically contemplates that major urban health centers would be eligible to participate and receive funding if they include rural health care providers in the network. The benefit for urban hospitals is that they can use the funds to establish direct broadband links with rural providers, thus expanding their reach, while also improving their own telecommunications infrastructure and connecting with other networks and research institutions. The program makes approximately $55-60 million available for each of the two years of the pilot program. The funds come from the existing Rural Health Care Fund, which is part of the federal universal service program. Public and nonprofit health care providers, such as not-for-profit hospitals, may apply for the funds. For-profit health care providers can be part of the network, but they must pay their costs to connect. The FCC will look primarily at two criteria: 1. to what extent does the proposed network include rural health care providers; and 2. what is the business plan for eventually making the network self-sustaining. Thus, the key to a successful application is to pull together as many health care providers - both urban and rural - as possible in order to create regional networks. In this way, urban centers can expand their footprint into rural areas and the rural providers will gain access, via telemedicine, to the sophisticated practices and programs that urban centers provide. The program will also fund high-speed connections to the Internet2, a national broadband network dedicated to universities and research institutions, such as the NIH. Applications for the initial, first-year round of funding will be due sometime in the next couple of months. Applications can also be submitted later for the second year of funding. If accepted into the program by the FCC, the applicant will follow the standard procedures for funding from FCC universal service programs. The funding application must:identify the organization that will be legally and financially responsible for the conduct of activities supported by the fund; identify the goals and objectives of the proposed network (we believe that a proposal that connects multiple rural health care providers over a state or region and describes the types of telemedicine/telehealth services and benefits that can be provided over the network will have a better chance of being accepted); estimate the network's total costs for each year; describe how for-profit network participants will pay their fair share of the network costs; identify the source of financial support and anticipated revenues that will pay for costs not covered by the fund (this could come from increased patient referrals form the rural to urban centers or other fees associated with the provision of telemedicine/telehealth services; also additional funding might be available from state or other grant programs); list the health care facilities that will be included in the network; provide the address, zip code, rural urban commuting area (RUCA) code and phone number for each health care facility participating in the network; indicate previous experience in developing and managing telemedicine programs; provide a project management plan outlining the project�s leadership and management structure, as well as its work plan, schedule and budget; indicate how the telemedicine program will be coordinated throughout the state or region; and indicate to what extent the network can be self-sustaining once established. (Source: Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo P.C.Law Firm, Press Release, January 31, 2007) -- WISPA Wireless List