Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Harold Bledsoe
If you are in the US, you can look up the FCC ID to see what frequencies
are legal.

-Hal


On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 22:44 -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.
 
 The selections are :
 
 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.
 
 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments
 
 but it also has:
 
 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.
 
 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
 5680 was.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread jp
Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share 
it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and 
up freq band.

On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.
 
 The selections are :
 
 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.
 
 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments
 
 but it also has:
 
 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.
 
 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
 5680 was.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Baird
They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this 
weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling 
on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be 
the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per 
sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP 
throughput for the backhauls.

Regards
Michael Baird
 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share 
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and 
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
   
 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
The bands legal for outdoor use in the US is:

U-NII-2 - 5.25GHz to 5.35GHz (subject to DFS)
U-NII Worldwide - 5.47GHz to 5.725GHz (Subject to DFS, otherwise known as
the 5.4GHz band)
U-NII-3 - 5.725GHz to 5.825GHz

U-NII-1 is 5.15GHz to 5.25GHz and is illegal for operation outdoors in the
United States.

But you really need to check the FCC ID, as most likely these things cannot
do DFS which would limit you to the U-NII-3 band.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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Behalf Of Tim Kerns
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Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and
I'm
not sure of the Freq. it covers.

The selections are :

5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

but it also has:

5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500
to
5680 was.

Thanks,

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.





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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Gino Villarini
Hal

Did you received my email about the second FCC I'd of 3.65 gear in  
your wiki ?

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Harold Bledsoe hbled...@deliberant.net  
wrote:

 If you are in the US, you can look up the FCC ID to see what  
 frequencies
 are legal.

 -Hal


 On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 22:44 -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with)  
 and I'm
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think  
 5500 to
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Scottie Arnett
optional polling

This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS series?

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400

They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this 
weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling 
on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be 
the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per 
sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP 
throughput for the backhauls.

Regards
Michael Baird
 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share 
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and 
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
   
 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Baird
Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during 
the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are 
planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They 
said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to 
replace that.

Regards
Michael Baird
 optional polling

 This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS 
 series?

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400

   
 They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this 
 weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling 
 on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be 
 the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per 
 sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP 
 throughput for the backhauls.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 
 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share 
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and 
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
   
   
 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Josh Luthman
What do you mean by Canopy type functionality?

On 8/6/09, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
 Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during
 the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are
 planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They
 said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to
 replace that.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 optional polling

 This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS
 series?

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400


 They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this
 weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling
 on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be
 the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per
 sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP
 throughput for the backhauls.

 Regards
 Michael Baird

 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:


 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and
 I'm
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500
 to
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Travis Johnson




Hi,

Unless they are doing something in hardware, they will NOT be able to
duplicate Canopy polling in software. It just can't be done. Mikrotik
has tried (and come very close), but there is only so much you can do
in software.

Travis
Microserv

Michael Baird wrote:

  Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during 
the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are 
planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They 
said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to 
replace that.

Regards
Michael Baird
  
  
"optional polling"

This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS series?

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400

  


  They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this 
weekend.

>From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling 
on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be 
the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per 
sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP 
throughput for the backhauls.

Regards
Michael Baird

  
  
Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share 
it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and 
up freq band.

On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:
  
  


  I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
not sure of the Freq. it covers.

The selections are :

5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

but it also has:

5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
5680 was.

Thanks,

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.




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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Having Ubiquiti gear with Mikrotik-like software polling would be really nice.
Hope UBNT is hearing... :-)


Rubens


On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Unless they are doing something in hardware, they will NOT be able to
 duplicate Canopy polling in software. It just can't be done. Mikrotik has
 tried (and come very close), but there is only so much you can do in
 software.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Michael Baird wrote:

 Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during
 the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are
 planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They
 said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to
 replace that.

 Regards
 Michael Baird


 optional polling

 This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS
 series?

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400




 They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this
 weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling
 on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be
 the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per
 sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP
 throughput for the backhauls.

 Regards
 Michael Baird



 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:




 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread Scottie Arnett
Canopy uses a timing feature. Much like polling except their's goes a step 
further with GPS sync. I have always advocated that one day, one of these 
cheap mfg providers would get this right in their equipment, and then Moto 
would not be the sh*t no more. If Ubiquity gets this right, they will be one 
step closer! And...help all our bottom lines.

Scottie

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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:59:12 -0400

What do you mean by Canopy type functionality?

On 8/6/09, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
 Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it during
 the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are
 planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They
 said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to
 replace that.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 optional polling

 This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS and PS
 series?

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400


 They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release this
 weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional polling
 on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would be
 the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users per
 sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real TCP
 throughput for the backhauls.

 Regards
 Michael Baird

 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't share
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the 5745 and
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:


 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and
 I'm
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500
 to
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
There is more to Canopy than timing.  Until a cheap manufacturer ditches the
atheros chipset they will never compete RF wise with Canopy.  Its hard to
beat a system that has had millions poured into it by the best RF engineers
in the world :-D

Timing in an atheros chipset though would make the case for Canopy more
difficult though.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

Canopy uses a timing feature. Much like polling except their's goes
a step further with GPS sync. I have always advocated that one day, one
of these cheap mfg providers would get this right in their
equipment, and then Moto would not be the sh*t no more. If Ubiquity gets
this right, they will be one step closer! And...help all our bottom
lines.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:59:12 -0400

What do you mean by Canopy type functionality?

On 8/6/09, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
 Yes, they are being very quiet about it, supposed to announce it
during
 the weekend officially, as it hasn't been released yet. They are
 planning to offer Canopy type functionality at Ubiquity prices. They
 said no PS though, so I suspect they have something else in mind to
 replace that.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 optional polling

 This will be real nice. I wonder if the will do it for all the NS
and PS
 series?

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:34:35 -0400


 They are supposed to explain the extra features in a press release
this
 weekend.

 From the forums it appears they are going to impliment optional
polling
 on their BulletM series w/cpe's to follow, other differences would
be
 the single stream 802.11n, and a much beefier CPU for more users
per
 sector in the 802.11b/g modes vs the normal bullet, and higher real
TCP
 throughput for the backhauls.

 Regards
 Michael Baird

 Would you mind sharing the FCC id?

 UBNT claims it is different than the regular bullet, but doesn't
share
 it, and I don't see it on the FCC oet website search.

 If it's the same as the bullet, you'll only be able to use the
5745 and
 up freq band.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:44:40PM -0700, Tim Kerns wrote:


 I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing
with) and
 I'm
 not sure of the Freq. it covers.

 The selections are :

 5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

 5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

 but it also has:

 5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

 Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't
think 5500
 to
 5680 was.

 Thanks,

 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.



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