Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Blair Davis

Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti?

Their web site doesn't seem to mention them  IMHO, their web site is 
useless


--

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the 
radios has me thinking.


I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with.  Both are low 
to the ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath.  GREAT speed tests 
radio to radio but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of 
the time).  Still much better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs 
to be better.


I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire 
or need to learn.  I do need some help from someone that knows them 
insideout. Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get 
these two systems polished up so that they run at full speed?


thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard




JohnnyO,


When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment



Of course every environment is different.  But We have with great 
success with Trango.


Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the 
same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, 
-30db RSSIs on the top channel.


Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of 
dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal 
experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated).  
My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of 
Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job.  I find 
most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, 
very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal 
pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing 
with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek 
Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and 
CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis.


Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- 
dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ


The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high 
grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). 
All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. 
Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity.  Trango- Dual 
Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools.  Canopy- easy interface w/ 
diag statistic for Jitter and such.


But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in 
that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard



How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil 
over
a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the 
ONLY

platform that will work here.

We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for
the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us..
When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM
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Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


How do you figure?

Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy
enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out 
noise.


The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing
WRAP
or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender.
For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for
indoor CPEs located on the court.

But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its 
sleve


similar.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: JohnnyO 
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To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard



Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy

RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Eje Gustafsson
They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with the
current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. They
are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The cards
where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and more
then likely your not going to see any cards until Feb at this point since
they have to redesign them a bit. But it's all for the better. 

/ Eje
WISP-Router, Inc
Ubiquiti Distributor

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti?

Their web site doesn't seem to mention them  IMHO, their web site is 
useless

--

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the 
 radios has me thinking.

 I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with.  Both are low 
 to the ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath.  GREAT speed tests 
 radio to radio but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of 
 the time).  Still much better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs 
 to be better.

 I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire 
 or need to learn.  I do need some help from someone that knows them 
 insideout. Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get 
 these two systems polished up so that they run at full speed?

 thanks,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi 
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
 Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


 JohnnyO,

 When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment


 Of course every environment is different.  But We have with great 
 success with Trango.

 Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the 
 same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, 
 -30db RSSIs on the top channel.

 Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of 
 dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal 
 experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated).  
 My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of 
 Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job.  I find 
 most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, 
 very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal 
 pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing 
 with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek 
 Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and 
 CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis.

 Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- 
 dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ

 The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high 
 grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). 
 All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. 
 Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity.  Trango- Dual 
 Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools.  Canopy- easy interface w/ 
 diag statistic for Jitter and such.

 But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in 
 that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

 - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
 Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


 How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil 
 over
 a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the 
 ONLY
 platform that will work here.

 We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for
 the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us..
 When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
 with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen.

 JohnnyO

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
 Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


 How do you figure?

 Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy

RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Ron Wallace
Thanks for the heads-up Eje.
Ron Wallace
 Original message 
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:50:31 -0600
From: Eje Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-
PCICard  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with 
the
current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. 
They
are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The 
cards
where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and 
more
then likely your not going to see any cards until Feb at this point 
since
they have to redesign them a bit. But it's all for the better. 

/ Eje
WISP-Router, Inc
Ubiquiti Distributor

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from 
Ubiquiti?

Their web site doesn't seem to mention them  IMHO, their web site 
is 
useless

Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson St.
Addison, MI 49220

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Pete Davis. NoDial.net
With all of the current 900mhz AP's and CPE out there currently a 
closed/proprietary system (not an 802.x open standard) for the 
handshaking, security, ack/nack, etc, I am curious if/how Mikrotik, 
StarOS, Windows, or  whoever will talk to them. Has all of that 
programming been worked out? They won't actually be able to associate 
with an existing Waverider, Proxim, Trango, Tranzeo, or Alvarion, or 
whatever AP/CPE will they? I would assume not.
I would love to deploy a 900Mhz system where I am not locked into a 
single source hardware providor. Open standards avoid things like 
getting stuck with things like Karlnet or whoever when they go out of 
business. If Mikrotik were to make a proprietary standard, it would be a 
shame (although waiting on IEEE might not be effective/appropriate), but 
Mikrotik is not going anywhere IMO, and its affordable enough.


pd


Eje Gustafsson wrote:


They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with the
current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. They
are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The cards
where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and more
then likely your not going to see any cards until Feb at this point since
they have to redesign them a bit. But it's all for the better. 


/ Eje
WISP-Router, Inc
Ubiquiti Distributor

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti?

Their web site doesn't seem to mention them  IMHO, their web site is 
useless


--

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 

OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the 
radios has me thinking.


I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with.  Both are low 
to the ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath.  GREAT speed tests 
radio to radio but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of 
the time).  Still much better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs 
to be better.


I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire 
or need to learn.  I do need some help from someone that knows them 
insideout. Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get 
these two systems polished up so that they run at full speed?


thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard



   


JohnnyO,

 


When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
   

Of course every environment is different.  But We have with great 
success with Trango.


Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the 
same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, 
-30db RSSIs on the top channel.


Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of 
dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal 
experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated).  
My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of 
Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job.  I find 
most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, 
very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal 
pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing 
with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek 
Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and 
CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis.


Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- 
dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ


The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high 
grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). 
All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. 
Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity.  Trango- Dual 
Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools.  Canopy- easy interface w/ 
diag statistic for Jitter and such.


But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in 
that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: RE

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-25 Thread Tom DeReggi

JohnnyO,


When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment


Of course every environment is different.  But We have with great success 
with Trango.


Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the same 
horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, -30db RSSIs on 
the top channel.


Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of dealing 
with interference better than Trango. (other than personal experience, 
because that can not be verified or accurately debated).  My guess is in 
your environment, you weren't taking advantage of Trango's flexibility and 
using the best polarity for the job.  I find most noise, such as from SCADA 
systems, are on verticle polarity, very easy to combat with a radio like 
Trango that supports horizontal pol antennas on the fly.  You probably were 
using omnis or testing with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango 
w/ Tiltek Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs 
and CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis.


Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- dynamic 
leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ


The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high grade 
radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). All have 
their own little unique benefits that make them special. Alvarion- Mobile. 
WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity.  Trango- Dual Pol switchable + ARQ + 
great diag tools.  Canopy- easy interface w/ diag statistic for Jitter and 
such.


But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in that 
territory above Trango. I just don't believe it.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard




How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over
a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY
platform that will work here.

We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for
the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us..
When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


How do you figure?

Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy
enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise.

The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing
WRAP
or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender.
For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for
indoor CPEs located on the court.

But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve

similar.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard



Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a



-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

JohnnyO

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
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Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT



with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able



to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan



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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype
902-928MHzMini- PCICard


Omfg.  That's awesome.

Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it
integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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Brian

Just and FYI Demarc has

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-25 Thread Dan Petermann
I have to agree. I've got a Canopy system running a horizontal omni  
with a noise floor of -63dB at the AP. Longest links are 30+ miles,  
average length is around 20. This is a mobile setup, longest link on  
it has been at 57.6 miles, stable enough to run vpn over it.


The Canopy  Last Mile Gear engineers were amazed that it worked at  
all, let alone at over 50 miles.


Granted the terrain supports such long links, but I am very impressed.


On Oct 23, 2005, at 8:54 PM, JohnnyO wrote:


Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a
-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of danlist
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
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Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT
with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able
to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan




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902-928MHzMini- PCICard


Omfg.  That's awesome.

Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it
integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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Brian

Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as
its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.





The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or
1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do
4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either
CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the
most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure
it will be less then anything on the market today with more options,
we will have to wait and see :)

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
This just goes to underscore the importance of staying flexible.  What works 
for one guy sucks for another.


Empirical data based on LOCAL conditions rules!

grin
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- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard




How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over
a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY
platform that will work here.

We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for
the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us..
When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen.

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


How do you figure?

Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy
enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise.

The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing
WRAP
or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender.
For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for
indoor CPEs located on the court.

But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve

similar.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard



Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a



-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of danlist
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT



with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able



to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan



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On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype
902-928MHzMini- PCICard


Omfg.  That's awesome.

Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it
integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928
MHzMini- PCICard

Brian

Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as
its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.



The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or



1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do
4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either
CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the
most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure
it will be less then anything on the market today with more options,
we will have to wait and see :)

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com


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On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the radios 
has me thinking.


I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with.  Both are low to the 
ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath.  GREAT speed tests radio to radio 
but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of the time).  Still much 
better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs to be better.


I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire or need 
to learn.  I do need some help from someone that knows them insideout. 
Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get these two systems 
polished up so that they run at full speed?


thanks,
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- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard




JohnnyO,


When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment


Of course every environment is different.  But We have with great success 
with Trango.


Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the same 
horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, -30db RSSIs 
on the top channel.


Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of 
dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal 
experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated).  My 
guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of Trango's 
flexibility and using the best polarity for the job.  I find most noise, 
such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, very easy to combat 
with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal pol antennas on the fly. 
You probably were using omnis or testing with Trango default antennas. Try 
matching up Trango w/ Tiltek Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext 
antenna port on all APs and CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis.


Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- 
dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ


The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high grade 
radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). All have 
their own little unique benefits that make them special. Alvarion- Mobile. 
WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity.  Trango- Dual Pol switchable + ARQ + 
great diag tools.  Canopy- easy interface w/ diag statistic for Jitter and 
such.


But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in that 
territory above Trango. I just don't believe it.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard




How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over
a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY
platform that will work here.

We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for
the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us..
When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


How do you figure?

Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy
enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise.

The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing
WRAP
or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender.
For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for
indoor CPEs located on the court.

But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve

similar.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard



Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a



-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

JohnnyO

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From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-24 Thread Tom DeReggi

How do you figure?

Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy 
enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise.


The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing WRAP 
or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender.
For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for 
indoor CPEs located on the court.


But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve 
similar.



Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard




Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a
-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of danlist
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT
with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able
to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype
902-928MHzMini- PCICard


Omfg.  That's awesome.

Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it
integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928
MHzMini- PCICard

Brian

Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as
its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.



The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or
1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do
4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either
CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the
most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure
it will be less then anything on the market today with more options,
we will have to wait and see :)

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com


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RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-24 Thread JohnnyO
How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over
a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY
platform that will work here.

We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for
the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us..
When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment
with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


How do you figure?

Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy 
enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise.

The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing
WRAP 
or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender.
For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for 
indoor CPEs located on the court.

But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve

similar.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


 Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by 
 Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a

 -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the 
 perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

 JohnnyO

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of danlist
 Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
 Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard


 This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT

 with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able

 to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the 
 existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

 Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


 Dan


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Rick Smith
 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype
 902-928MHzMini- PCICard


 Omfg.  That's awesome.

 Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it 
 integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM
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 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928
 MHzMini- PCICard

 Brian

 Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as 
 its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.

 The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or

 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 
 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either 
 CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the 
 most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure 
 it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, 
 we will have to wait and see :)

 Sincerely, Tony Morella
 Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
 Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com


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RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-23 Thread JohnnyO
Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a
-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run noise/interference free :)

JohnnyO

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Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard 


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT
with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able
to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan


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 On Behalf Of Rick Smith
 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 
 902-928MHzMini- PCICard
 
 
 Omfg.  That's awesome.
 
 Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it 
 integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?
 
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 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM
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 Brian
 
 Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as 
 its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.

 The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 
 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 
 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either 
 CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the 
 most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure 
 it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, 
 we will have to wait and see :)
 
 Sincerely, Tony Morella
 Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
 Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-23 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Ask 
Rick Smith ! - we cannot install here unless we have a -52 or better ! DOH 
! This gives us a 1/2 mile operating radius with 900mhz ! 
:)

JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:16 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 
  Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICardHopefully 
  you aren't really installing customers that have a -55 to -60 noise floor. How 
  reliable of a signal can they really 
  have?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a
-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run "noise/interference" free :)

JohnnyO

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard 


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT
with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able
to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan


  
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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 
902-928MHzMini- PCICard


Omfg.  That's awesome.

Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it 
integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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MHzMini- PCICard

Brian

Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as 
its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.

  
The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 
1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 
4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either 
CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the 
most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure 
it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, 
we will have to wait and see :)

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com


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Mini-PCICard

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823
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RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-10-23 Thread Rick Smith
Title: Message



I just ran across the same thing in NJ near a power 
plant.

I'm installing customers, but the noise floor's -71 - so 
that means they need a 59 signal or better. ouch.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyOSent: 
Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:55 PMTo: 'WISPA General 
List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals 
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

Ask 
Rick Smith ! - we cannot install here unless we have a -52 or better ! DOH 
! This gives us a 1/2 mile operating radius with 900mhz ! 
:)

JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:16 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 
  Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICardHopefully 
  you aren't really installing customers that have a -55 to -60 noise floor. How 
  reliable of a signal can they really 
  have?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by
Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a
-55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the
perfect world and can run "noise/interference" free :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of danlist
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals
Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard 


This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT
with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able
to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the
existing Trango  Canopy 900mhz systems

Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5


Dan


  
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On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 
902-928MHzMini- PCICard


Omfg.  That's awesome.

Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it 
integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ?

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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 
MHzMini- PCICard

Brian

Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as 
its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it.

  
The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 
1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 
4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either 
CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the 
most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure 
it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, 
we will have to wait and see :)

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com


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Mini-PCICard

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823
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