Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Jason Hensley
Yes, that's the biggest thing is that during our cold weather we've had here
the past week or so (0* with -15 wind chills - not a normal thing here in
Southern Missouri) our current weather seal methods aren't easy to install.
Sure, we could do it inside and would work fine but we get up on a tower in
this cold and the tapes get just a bit too stiff for us to use, and hate to
climb twice to pull an antenna down just to water seal it on the ground in a
warm environment.  Luckily we have better days now.  Got up to 40 or so
today and should be that way all week.  MUCH better!!!

"Normal" weather we don't have issues with water sealing - we have found a
great system that works for us - rubber/mastic tape with electrical tape
over that and on occasion, silicone for those connectors that we can't quite
get the tape down into adequately. 

Thanks for the recommendations guys.  Appreciate all the help that this list
is.  



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

I think Jason's angle is that products often times have an application 
temperature range that is less than the temperature way in which they'll do 
their job.  What everyone does may well work fine at 70 degrees ambient, but

at 30 or -50, what works?


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From: "Bob Moldashel" 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:39 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

> Wow...  I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is
> discussed.   I would be in the Caribbean right now.  :-)
>
> Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion...
>
> -B-
>
>
>
> RickG wrote:
>> Ditto.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Coax seal.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>>
>>>> Ice works.  :)
>>>>
>>>> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
>>>>
>>> vulcanizing
>>>
>>>> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" 
>>>> stuff
>>>> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 
>>>> degrees.
>>>>
>>>> Bob-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather
>>>>
>>> (30*
>>>
>>>> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to 
>>>> be
>>>> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to 
>>>> not
>>>> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> we could use to replace this one with.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
LOL  That's gotta be the same thing we've used for years.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=0L2RH0Z4C7beV8CW66MTMZgl

NEVER had a leak.
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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather


> Coax-Seal.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Coax-Seal-ft-Pro-Pack/dp/B00075J4JG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1263234681&sr=8-3
>
> We use it on everything and in every temperature.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Jason Hensley wrote:
>> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather 
>> (30*
>> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
>> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
>> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna 
>> that
>> we could use to replace this one with.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We use the same mastic and 33+ tape that we normally do.

Before you go to the site, put it on the dash with the defrost on to get it 
warmed up well.

Then put the tape INSIDE your shirt, that'll keep it fairly warm.

Once up there, work really fast :-).
marlon

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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather


> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna 
> that
> we could use to replace this one with.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Josh Cheney
On 1/11/10 3:47 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> at ... -50, what works?

Not me, that's for sure!


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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I think Jason's angle is that products often times have an application 
temperature range that is less than the temperature way in which they'll do 
their job.  What everyone does may well work fine at 70 degrees ambient, but 
at 30 or -50, what works?


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From: "Bob Moldashel" 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:39 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

> Wow...  I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is
> discussed.   I would be in the Caribbean right now.  :-)
>
> Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion...
>
> -B-
>
>
>
> RickG wrote:
>> Ditto.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Coax seal.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>>
>>>> Ice works.  :)
>>>>
>>>> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
>>>>
>>> vulcanizing
>>>
>>>> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" 
>>>> stuff
>>>> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 
>>>> degrees.
>>>>
>>>> Bob-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather
>>>>
>>> (30*
>>>
>>>> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to 
>>>> be
>>>> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to 
>>>> not
>>>> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> we could use to replace this one with.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Patrick Leary
Right, when I first saw this topic come up a gazillion years ago I
should have become a chemist and materials engineer to come up with the
perfect product. I'd be in the box seats for sure! 


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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Wow...  I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is 
discussed.   I would be in the Caribbean right now.  :-)

Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion...

-B-



RickG wrote:
> Ditto.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Coax seal.
>>
>> On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

>>> On Behalf Of Robert West
>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>
>>> Ice works.  :)
>>>
>>> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
>>>   
>> vulcanizing
>> 
>>> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" 
>>> stuff trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing 
>>> chemical or
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20
degrees.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

>>> On Behalf Of Jason Hensley
>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>
>>> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold 
>>> weather
>>>   
>> (30*
>> 
>>> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs 
>>> to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would 
>>> prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have

>>> another antenna
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> we could use to replace this one with.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread RickG
LOL, do you invest in the futures market!?! I'd bet it will come up again!
-r

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:

> Wow...  I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is
> discussed.   I would be in the Caribbean right now.  :-)
>
> Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion...
>
> -B-
>
>
>
> RickG wrote:
> > Ditto.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Coax seal.
> >>
> >> On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Robert West
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
> >>> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
> >>>
> >>> Ice works.  :)
> >>>
> >>> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
> >>>
> >> vulcanizing
> >>
> >>> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty"
> stuff
> >>> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20
> degrees.
> >>>
> >>> Bob-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM
> >>> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >>> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
> >>>
> >>> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather
> >>>
> >> (30*
> >>
> >>> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to
> be
> >>> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to
> not
> >>> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna
> >>>
> >> that
> >>
> >>> we could use to replace this one with.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Bob Moldashel
Wow...  I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is 
discussed.   I would be in the Caribbean right now.  :-)

Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion...

-B-



RickG wrote:
> Ditto.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Coax seal.
>>
>> On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>
>>> Ice works.  :)
>>>
>>> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
>>>   
>> vulcanizing
>> 
>>> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
>>> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>>>
>>> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather
>>>   
>> (30*
>> 
>>> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
>>> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
>>> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> we could use to replace this one with.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread RickG
Ditto.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Coax seal.
>
> On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
> > Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Robert West
> > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
> >
> > Ice works.  :)
> >
> > Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
> vulcanizing
> > tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
> > trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or
> the
> > sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.
> >
> > Bob-
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Scott Reed
The key to using ice is to keep it cold all year.

For the self-vulcanizing tape, I find it works by putting it on the 
defroster vent of the truck while driving to the site and then keeping 
it in an inside pocket until ready to use it.

Jason Hensley wrote:
> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
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> Ice works.  :)
>
> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing
> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.  
>
> Bob-
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> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
> we could use to replace this one with.  
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Mike
The Andrew way has always been wide mastic/coax seal/good electrical tape.

The mastic keeps the coax seal out of the threads

The coax seal seals

The electrical tape protects the coax seal


Always wrap like you're roofing; bottom up.

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Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Coax-Seal.

http://www.amazon.com/Coax-Seal-ft-Pro-Pack/dp/B00075J4JG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1263234681&sr=8-3

We use it on everything and in every temperature.

Travis
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> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
> we could use to replace this one with.  
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Robert West
Coax seal is the S**T man!  

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Coax seal.

On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>
> Ice works.  :)
>
> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self
vulcanizing
> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
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> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>
> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna
that
> we could use to replace this one with.
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Robert West
I've used the liquid tape but never in the cold.  What's happened to the
vulcanizing tape?  Some use a top coat of regular vinyl tape so that it
doesn't weather.

Bob-


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Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?

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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Ice works.  :)

Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing
tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.  

Bob-



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Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Coax seal.

On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley  wrote:
> Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?
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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>
> Ice works.  :)
>
> Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing
> tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
> trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
> sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
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> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
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> Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
>
> Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
> or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
> done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
> have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
> we could use to replace this one with.
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Jason Hensley
Our luck hasn't been good with that.  Other ideas / possibilities?

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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Ice works.  :)

Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing
tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.  

Bob-



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Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
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Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

2010-01-11 Thread Robert West
Ice works.  :)

Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing
tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of "crusty" stuff
trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the
sticky or whatever but it went on just fine.  Temp was around 20 degrees.  

Bob-



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Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather

Hey guys.  What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30*
or colder)?  N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be
done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not
have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that
we could use to replace this one with.  

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