Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
There's many times where I wish I had a gig. Really, as in-home media sharing grows, you'll need that bandwidth. DirecTV already lets you watch DVR episodes on your PC from your DVR. Soon they'll share them among DVRs. Streaming a 1080P movie from one room to another will take some serious bandwidth. 10 years ago we had 480i. I'm not exactly sure of the order, but we've gone to 480p, 720p, 1080i, and now 1080p. How long will 1080p reign as the highest consumer video resolution? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
In case anyone was curious: http://www.ieee802.org/11/Reports/tgad_update.htm Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 If 60 GHz, then even better! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Who ever said it had to be wireless? Seems to me you can solve the problem today with a $100 cat5 line run. rather then $50 wireless adapter and $50 AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: There's many times where I wish I had a gig. Really, as in-home media sharing grows, you'll need that bandwidth. DirecTV already lets you watch DVR episodes on your PC from your DVR. Soon they'll share them among DVRs. Streaming a 1080P movie from one room to another will take some serious bandwidth. 10 years ago we had 480i. I'm not exactly sure of the order, but we've gone to 480p, 720p, 1080i, and now 1080p. How long will 1080p reign as the highest consumer video resolution? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Ah... I was talking about the ones commenting on getting a new computer from wal-mart or elsewhere. We do sell new computers but it's the ones who make by the way comments that I try to set straight. As in, someone with I got this 3 years ago and now it's just so slow when I get on the internet. Hm. Norton 360, okay, Limewire in auto startup. Webshots Yahoo messenger/msn/myspace chat clients all together, weatherbug. Yep! That new computer would certainly take care of your speed, I would say, Until you put all this crap on the new one, then you'll be right where you are now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 New computer can improve browsing speed. The page rendering times are very noticeable in the last few years. The PC to my right is noticeably slower then this one I am on. The one on the right has an AMD64 3500+ while this has a Phenom II X4 955. But for all intent and purpose, you are correct - most people won't notice it. You do realize if you started selling newer computers you could make money, right? If someone is ready to buy a new car does the salesman suggest a detail and transmission flush? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I view waste as in clueless people grabbing fast as you say. I love having to explain to customers who want a newer computer because their internet is so slow. HA! Unless they are riddled with spyware and viruses, no new computer is gonna make the internet faster unless you're replacing one from 1997. H. 100mb nic vs. 1mb internet. Gotta love marketing! I always wondered why some slick idiot didn't come out with a 512k dial-up modem. Sure, it's useless after 53k but hey, people would've bought it by the thousands! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Depends how you view waste. If you're clueless and you see 100 meg router or 54 meg router which are you going to choose? You want fast! That other one is almost twice the speed. If they can make it at the same cost and just charge more, manufacturers will love it. Look at N. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
The problem with streaming Hi-Def video over Wi-Fi really has nothing to do with bandwidth, it has to do with how the data is delivered. There is a lot of jitter in the typical Wi-Fi signal. Ruckus is the only company I know of that claims to be able to stream Hi-Def video now (because of their antenna array technology, Beamflex). Ruckus is huge overseas in IPTV markets (that is how they got their start), and I've been told that Ruckus is the largest purchaser of Atheros based chipsets because of how many units they sell overseas for this. More reading: http://www.ruckuswireless.com/solutions/triple-play-carrier-services If you click download on the right hand side there is a whitepaper regarding IPTV over Wi-Fi Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 There's many times where I wish I had a gig. Really, as in-home media sharing grows, you'll need that bandwidth. DirecTV already lets you watch DVR episodes on your PC from your DVR. Soon they'll share them among DVRs. Streaming a 1080P movie from one room to another will take some serious bandwidth. 10 years ago we had 480i. I'm not exactly sure of the order, but we've gone to 480p, 720p, 1080i, and now 1080p. How long will 1080p reign as the highest consumer video resolution? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Yeah, you can now go buy a Linksys at wal-mart that is both 2.4 and 5 so it's now spilling over to the 5ghz. I have a customer who has one but unfortunately you can't operate both the 2.4 and 5 at the same time, it's either or. I found that odd and the customer has 2 new laptops that have 2.4 and 5 as well as some older stuff on 2.4. Even HE thought he could do both together because his new laptops can do that just fine. Maybe a third party firmware will solve that but it was just wtf when I tried to set him up in both bands. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:02 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 09:23, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yeah, you can now go buy a Linksys at wal-mart that is both 2.4 and 5 so it's now spilling over to the 5ghz. I have a customer who has one but unfortunately you can't operate both the 2.4 and 5 at the same time, it's either or. I found that odd and the customer has 2 new laptops that have 2.4 and 5 as well as some older stuff on 2.4. Even HE thought he could do both together because his new laptops can do that just fine. Maybe a third party firmware will solve that but it was just wtf when I tried to set him up in both bands. A lot of the cheaper routers are like that. Probably using the same inexpensive chipset that a lot of us use in home-built APs - I know I have a number of Mikrotik radio cards out there that can run in both bands. My Apple Time Capsule at home actually has two separate radios, and can even do multiple SSIDs. Horribly expensive, by router standards, but well worth it. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I did the same thing at home. Wife was complaining (Yeah, what's new) her movie transfers too slow between bedroom and living room. Was using her laptop and connecting to wireless router. So, as a wireless geek, I put in 2 5.8 bullets and 2 Omnis, a quick throw together from stuff she's been telling me to get out of the living room anyhow. Ran with that for a bit at around 100mb (but I was creeped out by sleeping with all that darned radiation) but still too slow for her so I cut a hole in the wall, put 2 jacks in and ran it to the switch (yeah a PoE gig switch in the closet, I'm sure many others here have weird junk like that in the closet too) Now she's at near gig speed on her laptop that she plugs in now if she needs to and the desktop she has on her 52 plasma that I can't touch. Why do you have to do that now? Why can't you do that some other time when I'm not trying to -insert any female activity here- ??? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Who ever said it had to be wireless? Seems to me you can solve the problem today with a $100 cat5 line run. rather then $50 wireless adapter and $50 AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: There's many times where I wish I had a gig. Really, as in-home media sharing grows, you'll need that bandwidth. DirecTV already lets you watch DVR episodes on your PC from your DVR. Soon they'll share them among DVRs. Streaming a 1080P movie from one room to another will take some serious bandwidth. 10 years ago we had 480i. I'm not exactly sure of the order, but we've gone to 480p, 720p, 1080i, and now 1080p. How long will 1080p reign as the highest consumer video resolution? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I have never seen or investigated Ruckus. Heard it a few times here though. Making myself a note just for fun here. Always good to know other equipment as solutions to weird problems. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The problem with streaming Hi-Def video over Wi-Fi really has nothing to do with bandwidth, it has to do with how the data is delivered. There is a lot of jitter in the typical Wi-Fi signal. Ruckus is the only company I know of that claims to be able to stream Hi-Def video now (because of their antenna array technology, Beamflex). Ruckus is huge overseas in IPTV markets (that is how they got their start), and I've been told that Ruckus is the largest purchaser of Atheros based chipsets because of how many units they sell overseas for this. More reading: http://www.ruckuswireless.com/solutions/triple-play-carrier-services If you click download on the right hand side there is a whitepaper regarding IPTV over Wi-Fi Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 There's many times where I wish I had a gig. Really, as in-home media sharing grows, you'll need that bandwidth. DirecTV already lets you watch DVR episodes on your PC from your DVR. Soon they'll share them among DVRs. Streaming a 1080P movie from one room to another will take some serious bandwidth. 10 years ago we had 480i. I'm not exactly sure of the order, but we've gone to 480p, 720p, 1080i, and now 1080p. How long will 1080p reign as the highest consumer video resolution? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
The client side devices are available at Tessco for MediaFlex and MetroFlex. ZoneFlex is only available through channel, so if you're interested in those products please hit me up Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I have never seen or investigated Ruckus. Heard it a few times here though. Making myself a note just for fun here. Always good to know other equipment as solutions to weird problems. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The problem with streaming Hi-Def video over Wi-Fi really has nothing to do with bandwidth, it has to do with how the data is delivered. There is a lot of jitter in the typical Wi-Fi signal. Ruckus is the only company I know of that claims to be able to stream Hi-Def video now (because of their antenna array technology, Beamflex). Ruckus is huge overseas in IPTV markets (that is how they got their start), and I've been told that Ruckus is the largest purchaser of Atheros based chipsets because of how many units they sell overseas for this. More reading: http://www.ruckuswireless.com/solutions/triple-play-carrier-services If you click download on the right hand side there is a whitepaper regarding IPTV over Wi-Fi Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 There's many times where I wish I had a gig. Really, as in-home media sharing grows, you'll need that bandwidth. DirecTV already lets you watch DVR episodes on your PC from your DVR. Soon they'll share them among DVRs. Streaming a 1080P movie from one room to another will take some serious bandwidth. 10 years ago we had 480i. I'm not exactly sure of the order, but we've gone to 480p, 720p, 1080i, and now 1080p. How long will 1080p reign as the highest consumer video resolution? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
As soon as it hits Wal-Mart they will all buy them and toss out the older, useless G routers. A nice opportunity to pick some used ones up for cheap. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 21:18, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. I think the business customers would be more interesting than the home users. Most home users, you can speak plainly to them and point out that unless they're streaming a half-dozen HD videos at once, 100Mbps is all they need. (And of course their upstream connection is just a tiny fraction of that 100Mbps anyway. If they still want to spend more money than they need to, hey, it's their money.) I'd love something like this in my office, to be honest. My office only has 100Mbps wiring, and it'd be annoying (and probably cost-prohibitive) to re-do twenty-some-odd cable runs with Cat6. If I could buy one new AP and a dozen wireless adapters, and get all the benefits of a faster LAN, I'd be sorely tempted. I know I've run into the limits of 100Mbps more and more as time goes on, especially with using things like VMware internally, where moving files that are tens of gigabytes is not uncommon. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I bought this laptop in the beginning of the year - it's bg. No 5Ghz to do an. I'm told the antenna is there and I can easily upgrade it, but I want an atheros card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Yeah, I'm using a Toshiba that has all in it and it will scan all bands automatically. Handy, handy item. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Yep most are the Intel 5100/5300 chipsets... which have issues with roaming. Unfortunately I have one :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I bought this laptop in the beginning of the year - it's bg. No 5Ghz to do an. I'm told the antenna is there and I can easily upgrade it, but I want an atheros card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Yeah, same as I have but I don't much care about roaming, I just like that I can use the same laptop with no more PCMCIA card and antenna on it to do both bands with no issue when I'm out in field. I have my MAC ID added to all the backhauls, I just turn the thing on. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Yep most are the Intel 5100/5300 chipsets... which have issues with roaming. Unfortunately I have one :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I bought this laptop in the beginning of the year - it's bg. No 5Ghz to do an. I'm told the antenna is there and I can easily upgrade it, but I want an atheros card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Made me look! Two fairly new HPs and a Dell, as well as my netbook (take to installs) have B/G cards, no A. At 10:22 AM 12/9/2009, you wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I stand corrected... I guess I thought everything was shipping with 802.11n now... at least all of the ones I have bought in the last year or so have Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Made me look! Two fairly new HPs and a Dell, as well as my netbook (take to installs) have B/G cards, no A. At 10:22 AM 12/9/2009, you wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Well, sounds like an upgrade opportunity for Dell and HP. HP sucks though because the firmware will not let you go buy a card and just pop it in. Unauthorized wireless card fount in slot blah, blah, blah HP will only let you use a card you buy from them even if it's the same model and make card you got from elsewhere. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Made me look! Two fairly new HPs and a Dell, as well as my netbook (take to installs) have B/G cards, no A. At 10:22 AM 12/9/2009, you wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Robert - do some good Googling. You can remove that from the BIOS. A and N seems to be an upgrade together. BG or ABGN. If only they offered an atheros ABGN in Thinkpads I would be so irritated. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Well, sounds like an upgrade opportunity for Dell and HP. HP sucks though because the firmware will not let you go buy a card and just pop it in. Unauthorized wireless card fount in slot blah, blah, blah HP will only let you use a card you buy from them even if it's the same model and make card you got from elsewhere. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Made me look! Two fairly new HPs and a Dell, as well as my netbook (take to installs) have B/G cards, no A. At 10:22 AM 12/9/2009, you wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Yeah, on some of the older units you can do it easily with a bios that someone already took the white list out of but that bios covers a very few models. The other older ones is still a bit of a challenge for most people, editing a bios is dangerous for most. Then Compaq/HP use a rom instead of a .BIN file, again a bear to deal with for most. The new ones have changed over to a compiled bios that I haven't been able to get inside of to even look at. It's C++ I think. Wasn't able to reverse engineer the thing as of yet to play with it. They go to all lengths to keep you out and it's just so you can't use an aftermarket card. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Robert - do some good Googling. You can remove that from the BIOS. A and N seems to be an upgrade together. BG or ABGN. If only they offered an atheros ABGN in Thinkpads I would be so irritated. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Well, sounds like an upgrade opportunity for Dell and HP. HP sucks though because the firmware will not let you go buy a card and just pop it in. Unauthorized wireless card fount in slot blah, blah, blah HP will only let you use a card you buy from them even if it's the same model and make card you got from elsewhere. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Made me look! Two fairly new HPs and a Dell, as well as my netbook (take to installs) have B/G cards, no A. At 10:22 AM 12/9/2009, you wrote: Every laptop I've seen recently usually comes with 802.11 a/b/g/n cards... except maybe netbooks Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I agree! However, most of the newer laptops don't have 802.11a capabilities any more. I like it when my technologically challenged customers want wireless in the house. When one of their friends says they have a 4M connection on Mediacomm, they respond, I connect at 54Mbps! Really helps sell my service. I've tried explaining, but the task bar tells all, right? Mike G At 08:30 AM 12/9/2009, Mike Hammett wrote: In 5 GHz (the home of 802.11a) there are a few hundred MHz available. All the home routers really should be in 5 GHz. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
You can run GigE over 5e. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:13 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 21:18, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. I think the business customers would be more interesting than the home users. Most home users, you can speak plainly to them and point out that unless they're streaming a half-dozen HD videos at once, 100Mbps is all they need. (And of course their upstream connection is just a tiny fraction of that 100Mbps anyway. If they still want to spend more money than they need to, hey, it's their money.) I'd love something like this in my office, to be honest. My office only has 100Mbps wiring, and it'd be annoying (and probably cost-prohibitive) to re-do twenty-some-odd cable runs with Cat6. If I could buy one new AP and a dozen wireless adapters, and get all the benefits of a faster LAN, I'd be sorely tempted. I know I've run into the limits of 100Mbps more and more as time goes on, especially with using things like VMware internally, where moving files that are tens of gigabytes is not uncommon. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 14:11, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: You can run GigE over 5e. Not reliably, in my experience. Longer runs are more likely only to negotiate up to 100Mbps. I know it often works, but I wouldn't want to depend on that. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
Depends how you view waste. If you're clueless and you see 100 meg router or 54 meg router which are you going to choose? You want fast! That other one is almost twice the speed. If they can make it at the same cost and just charge more, manufacturers will love it. Look at N. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I like! Many of my customers have wireless routers in their homes/offices. Once the devices become cheap and readily available it will be a godsend. At 09:18 PM 12/8/2009, you wrote: Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I view waste as in clueless people grabbing fast as you say. I love having to explain to customers who want a newer computer because their internet is so slow. HA! Unless they are riddled with spyware and viruses, no new computer is gonna make the internet faster unless you're replacing one from 1997. H. 100mb nic vs. 1mb internet. Gotta love marketing! I always wondered why some slick idiot didn't come out with a 512k dial-up modem. Sure, it's useless after 53k but hey, people would've bought it by the thousands! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Depends how you view waste. If you're clueless and you see 100 meg router or 54 meg router which are you going to choose? You want fast! That other one is almost twice the speed. If they can make it at the same cost and just charge more, manufacturers will love it. Look at N. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
I'd use it too for the house and office. Already have gigabit lan in both places and transfer lots of files back and forth in both places so for an intranet, very, very nice. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 I like! Many of my customers have wireless routers in their homes/offices. Once the devices become cheap and readily available it will be a godsend. At 09:18 PM 12/8/2009, you wrote: Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012
New computer can improve browsing speed. The page rendering times are very noticeable in the last few years. The PC to my right is noticeably slower then this one I am on. The one on the right has an AMD64 3500+ while this has a Phenom II X4 955. But for all intent and purpose, you are correct - most people won't notice it. You do realize if you started selling newer computers you could make money, right? If someone is ready to buy a new car does the salesman suggest a detail and transmission flush? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I view waste as in clueless people grabbing fast as you say. I love having to explain to customers who want a newer computer because their internet is so slow. HA! Unless they are riddled with spyware and viruses, no new computer is gonna make the internet faster unless you're replacing one from 1997. H. 100mb nic vs. 1mb internet. Gotta love marketing! I always wondered why some slick idiot didn't come out with a 512k dial-up modem. Sure, it's useless after 53k but hey, people would've bought it by the thousands! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 Depends how you view waste. If you're clueless and you see 100 meg router or 54 meg router which are you going to choose? You want fast! That other one is almost twice the speed. If they can make it at the same cost and just charge more, manufacturers will love it. Look at N. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important? Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry! They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far. But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that as a standard... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything else. HAHAHA! My nightmare is coming true! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012 The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like it will make a ton of illegal links and be a waste of RF spectrum. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
