Re: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
What do you consider reasonable. Dragonwave 24 G would be good. Orthogon, Trango Giga, Ligowave. If money is not an issue, I would go Dragonwave. Licensed or unlicensed. - Original Message - From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings A friend in my Linux user group is in charge of setting up the IT in a building that's about about a mile or so away, and he wants to bridge them via wireless rather than pay a monthly dedicated circuit between them. The number of end users there will be about 50 or so. He asked me what I would recommend, but I was only familiar with 802.11a/b/n gear that ran about $5K on each side and only got, on average, 30-35 Mbps. I told him that there might be better solutions out there that used a different frequency or more channels, as bandwidth is more important to him at this point rather than any particular frequency or brand. I'm hoping to find him something in the 50-100 Mbps range for something reasonable. Any ideas? He wants to make sure that his solution is fairly rugged. It's southern CA (a little inland), so it's not too bad there, but I'm sure he wants to make sure that he gets a good 5-10 years on his investment. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
Dragonwave would be my first suggestion. You can look at the Redline an80s too - they're cheap but won't provide 100 megs. On 1/1/09, Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net wrote: What do you consider reasonable. Dragonwave 24 G would be good. Orthogon, Trango Giga, Ligowave. If money is not an issue, I would go Dragonwave. Licensed or unlicensed. - Original Message - From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings A friend in my Linux user group is in charge of setting up the IT in a building that's about about a mile or so away, and he wants to bridge them via wireless rather than pay a monthly dedicated circuit between them. The number of end users there will be about 50 or so. He asked me what I would recommend, but I was only familiar with 802.11a/b/n gear that ran about $5K on each side and only got, on average, 30-35 Mbps. I told him that there might be better solutions out there that used a different frequency or more channels, as bandwidth is more important to him at this point rather than any particular frequency or brand. I'm hoping to find him something in the 50-100 Mbps range for something reasonable. Any ideas? He wants to make sure that his solution is fairly rugged. It's southern CA (a little inland), so it's not too bad there, but I'm sure he wants to make sure that he gets a good 5-10 years on his investment. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
And does he want 100Mb full duplex or aggregate? Motorola Orthogon radios (specifically the PtP 500 Full) hits 105Mbps aggregate... that could be a real winner. 100Mb full duplex would be Dragonwave... 24Ghz could be a nice solution so they don't have to worry about the license. If he wants 1Gbps he could look at Bridgwave... but those links are not cheap. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings A friend in my Linux user group is in charge of setting up the IT in a building that's about about a mile or so away, and he wants to bridge them via wireless rather than pay a monthly dedicated circuit between them. The number of end users there will be about 50 or so. He asked me what I would recommend, but I was only familiar with 802.11a/b/n gear that ran about $5K on each side and only got, on average, 30-35 Mbps. I told him that there might be better solutions out there that used a different frequency or more channels, as bandwidth is more important to him at this point rather than any particular frequency or brand. I'm hoping to find him something in the 50-100 Mbps range for something reasonable. Any ideas? He wants to make sure that his solution is fairly rugged. It's southern CA (a little inland), so it's not too bad there, but I'm sure he wants to make sure that he gets a good 5-10 years on his investment. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
I'm not sure he knows what he wants, at this point. He knows that I do stuff with wifi mesh using BelAir products and wanted to know what that would cost. I told him BelAir might be good up to only a certain Mbps (fairly steady ~30Mbps on 802.11a radios, which I've tested many times), and after that, he'd after to think about frequencies not offered in any of the radios modules that you can put in a BelAir. He also only needs a simple PtP bridge, and a lot of the extra stuff he'd be paying for with BelAir would be too much if he didn't plan on ever exceeding that. Thanks for the advice on the Motorola Orthagon line. I have heard a lot of crap about their product line (mostly from people I work with who used to work with their products or at Motorola), but I'm not sure if it was this particular line or not. Their 500/600 series look good bandwidth wise. Some of the others (100/200/300/400 series), however, look fairly so-so at best (and sucky at worst). If he's willing to pay, I'll definitely tell him to consider Bridgewave or Dragonwave. Thanks for the input! 3-dB Networks wrote: And does he want 100Mb full duplex or aggregate? Motorola Orthogon radios (specifically the PtP 500 Full) hits 105Mbps aggregate... that could be a real winner. 100Mb full duplex would be Dragonwave... 24Ghz could be a nice solution so they don't have to worry about the license. If he wants 1Gbps he could look at Bridgwave... but those links are not cheap. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings A friend in my Linux user group is in charge of setting up the IT in a building that's about about a mile or so away, and he wants to bridge them via wireless rather than pay a monthly dedicated circuit between them. The number of end users there will be about 50 or so. He asked me what I would recommend, but I was only familiar with 802.11a/b/n gear that ran about $5K on each side and only got, on average, 30-35 Mbps. I told him that there might be better solutions out there that used a different frequency or more channels, as bandwidth is more important to him at this point rather than any particular frequency or brand. I'm hoping to find him something in the 50-100 Mbps range for something reasonable. Any ideas? He wants to make sure that his solution is fairly rugged. It's southern CA (a little inland), so it's not too bad there, but I'm sure he wants to make sure that he gets a good 5-10 years on his investment. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
If all else fails you can use a pair of BelAir links and use RouterOS/OSPF to concatinate them :) On 1/1/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure he knows what he wants, at this point. He knows that I do stuff with wifi mesh using BelAir products and wanted to know what that would cost. I told him BelAir might be good up to only a certain Mbps (fairly steady ~30Mbps on 802.11a radios, which I've tested many times), and after that, he'd after to think about frequencies not offered in any of the radios modules that you can put in a BelAir. He also only needs a simple PtP bridge, and a lot of the extra stuff he'd be paying for with BelAir would be too much if he didn't plan on ever exceeding that. Thanks for the advice on the Motorola Orthagon line. I have heard a lot of crap about their product line (mostly from people I work with who used to work with their products or at Motorola), but I'm not sure if it was this particular line or not. Their 500/600 series look good bandwidth wise. Some of the others (100/200/300/400 series), however, look fairly so-so at best (and sucky at worst). If he's willing to pay, I'll definitely tell him to consider Bridgewave or Dragonwave. Thanks for the input! 3-dB Networks wrote: And does he want 100Mb full duplex or aggregate? Motorola Orthogon radios (specifically the PtP 500 Full) hits 105Mbps aggregate... that could be a real winner. 100Mb full duplex would be Dragonwave... 24Ghz could be a nice solution so they don't have to worry about the license. If he wants 1Gbps he could look at Bridgwave... but those links are not cheap. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings A friend in my Linux user group is in charge of setting up the IT in a building that's about about a mile or so away, and he wants to bridge them via wireless rather than pay a monthly dedicated circuit between them. The number of end users there will be about 50 or so. He asked me what I would recommend, but I was only familiar with 802.11a/b/n gear that ran about $5K on each side and only got, on average, 30-35 Mbps. I told him that there might be better solutions out there that used a different frequency or more channels, as bandwidth is more important to him at this point rather than any particular frequency or brand. I'm hoping to find him something in the 50-100 Mbps range for something reasonable. Any ideas? He wants to make sure that his solution is fairly rugged. It's southern CA (a little inland), so it's not too bad there, but I'm sure he wants to make sure that he gets a good 5-10 years on his investment. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable solution for bridging two buildings
Josh Luthman wrote: If all else fails you can use a pair of BelAir links and use RouterOS/OSPF to concatinate them :) For long links, someone people I know claim to do something similar with RSTP: put two panels up (one on each polarization) and then plug both radios on each side into a layer 3 switch that supports RSTP (two ethernet interfaces on one side of the link, and two on the other side, as well). When one panel link goes down, the other panel on the other polarization (in theory) should be okay. That is, assuming you planned your link budget well, of course... Anyone else done this? I have not done it personally, I hear it works great. (But like everything, I have to do it personally before I fully believe anything anyone tells me about technology!) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
