Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-03-26 Thread Neil Sleightholm
ows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code On 18/02/2013 17:59, Rob Mensching wrote: > Finally, as I noted, the goal is to get contributions into the WiX > toolset to be as easy as possible. If making it easy to get bug fixes > and featu

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-03-26 Thread Bruce Cran
On 18/02/2013 17:59, Rob Mensching wrote: > Finally, as I noted, the goal is to get contributions into the WiX > toolset to be as easy as possible. If making it easy to get bug fixes > and features into the WiX toolset makes it harder for someone to lift > code out of the WiX toolset and not con

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-19 Thread Rob Mensching
t; Neil > > ** ** > > *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > *Sent:* 19 February 2013 14:08 > > *To:* Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code > > ** ** > > Okay, cool. Why is that better t

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-19 Thread Neil Sleightholm
: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code Okay, cool. Why is that better than being able to use the project files in the WiX build the same way? (assuming we fix any instances of issue #2 I listed previously) On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Neil Sleightholm mailto:n...@x2systems.com>> wrote: I can do

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-19 Thread Rob Mensching
rather than in the project > file. > > ** ** > > Neil > > ** ** > > *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > *Sent:* 18 February 2013 23:09 > > *To:* Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [WiX-devs] Building

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Neil Sleightholm
all be overridden from an external build process rather than in the project file. Neil From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 23:09 To: Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code Okay, that's getting to the

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Rob Mensching
nded BA, spending time breaking it out of the WiX > build has made it so much easier to work on. > > ** ** > > Neil > > ** ** > > *From:* Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] > *Sent:* 18 February 2013 21:07 > *To:* wix-devs@lists.sourcefo

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Neil Sleightholm
lto:b...@joyofsetup.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 21:07 To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code On 18-Feb-13 14:22, Neil Sleightholm wrote: There is an SDK for WiX so I would expect the extensions to use it I think that's the root disconnect: The extensions

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Bob Arnson
On 18-Feb-13 14:22, Neil Sleightholm wrote: There is an SDK for WiX so I would expect the extensions to use it I think that's the root disconnect: The extensions that ship with WiX aren't separate from WiX, so there's been no reason to build them separately. It's not that I think they shouldn't

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Neil Sleightholm
where the build output differs) the extension uses “$(WIX)bin\wix.dll”. I hope this makes a bit more sense. Neil From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 18:48 To: Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Rob Mensching
ng [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > *Sent:* 18 February 2013 17:59 > > *To:* Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code > > ** ** > > Okay, sounds like you are solely focused on improving the extensions. In > the past t

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Rob Mensching
You only have to execute the tools\OneTimeWixBuildInitialization.proj elevated once. This was true in the old builds too, it was just hard to find the targets you needed to run once elevated. That's why I pulled it out. I've always built the WiX toolset from an unelevated cmd prompt. Always. On

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Hoover, Jacob
Installer XML toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code Okay, sounds like you are solely focused on improving the extensions. In the past the extension build was horribly designed. Rather, it's design changed over time and work was never done to reconfigure the

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Neil Sleightholm
nstaller XML toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code Okay, sounds like you are solely focused on improving the extensions. In the past the extension build was horribly designed. Rather, it's design changed over time and work was never done to reconfigure the wh

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Rob Mensching
might help this but for the extensions that > seems overkill as everything you need is already in WiX. > > ** ** > > As I said just my opinion and maybe I am in the minority. > > ** ** > > Neil**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmenschi

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Neil Sleightholm
erything you need is already in WiX. As I said just my opinion and maybe I am in the minority. Neil From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 15:40 To: Windows Installer XML toolset developer mailing list Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code Sorry for the

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-02-18 Thread Rob Mensching
* > > Neil**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] > *Sent:* 30 January 2013 03:53 > > *To:* wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code > > ** ** > > On 19-Jan-13 18:24, Neil Sleightholm wrote

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-31 Thread Neil Sleightholm
ry 2013 03:53 To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code On 19-Jan-13 18:24, Neil Sleightholm wrote: I appreciate the issue of splitting the code but in my opinion it would be worth it, as I see it it is currently too complex. I have been trying to build WiX code for many y

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-30 Thread Heath Stewart
.msdn.com/heaths From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:58 PM To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code On 29-Jan-13 23:49, Hoover, Jacob wrote: Not to muddle the water too much, but it would be nice if there w

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-30 Thread Bob Arnson
On 29-Jan-13 23:49, Hoover, Jacob wrote: Not to muddle the water too much, but it would be nice if there was an easier way to modify the schema/vs integration in isolation. Having to roll out a vm or uninstall the RTM to work on features can be a pain, and short of reg hacks to the experimental

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-29 Thread Hoover, Jacob
Not to muddle the water too much, but it would be nice if there was an easier way to modify the schema/vs integration in isolation. Having to roll out a vm or uninstall the RTM to work on features can be a pain, and short of reg hacks to the experimental vs instance I have not found a means of d

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 19-Jan-13 18:24, Neil Sleightholm wrote: I appreciate the issue of splitting the code but in my opinion it would be worth it, as I see it it is currently too complex. I have been trying to build WiX code for many years and it has never been possible to resubmit my changes because the codebas

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-19 Thread Neil Sleightholm
fsetup.com] Sent: 19 January 2013 18:29 To: wix-devs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code On 19-Jan-13 08:37, Neil Sleightholm wrote: (Playing devil's advocate. For the record.) The problem I see with building and therefore contributing is that the code is structure

Re: [WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-19 Thread Bob Arnson
On 19-Jan-13 08:37, Neil Sleightholm wrote: (Playing devil's advocate. For the record.) The problem I see with building and therefore contributing is that the code is structured as a single unit and to build any one part you have to have built the whole thing. How serious an impediment do you

[WiX-devs] Building WiX Code

2013-01-19 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Following on from a comment I made on WiX users about building the WiX code (see below) I thought I would expand on it here. The problem I see with building and therefore contributing is that the code is structured as a single unit and to build any one part you have to have built the whole thin