Re: [WiX-users] Is click once what we should be using?

2006-12-06 Thread John Vottero
I think you should look at the GenerateBootstrapper MSBuild task. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:19 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

Re: [WiX-users] **Spam** 200 -Dual **Re: VS2005 C++ and Custom Actions

2006-12-06 Thread Matthew Kowalski
That seems like it would be a good stop-gap solution for now. I'm wondering how the WiX Extensions work since at the heart of those is C++ code. Seems like I'll have to do some more digging... Thanks for the reply! -Original Message- From: Eric Fesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[WiX-users] length of candle command line

2006-12-06 Thread Don Tasanasanta
I have run into an interesting problem using candle.exe. I have apparently run into a command line length problem when trying to compile my install project. Is there a command line length limit to candle? And if so... is there also one for light? Don

[WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread David Thielen
Hi; I posted this also in the MS forums (no answer) and the MSDN managed newsgroups (useless answer). I am hoping someone here can help. First off, I have read the following: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/10/Bootstrapper/

Re: [WiX-users] length of candle command line

2006-12-06 Thread Rob Mensching
No, but there is a command-line limit in Windows. Use a response file to get around it candle @commands.rsp From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Tasanasanta Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:04 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

Re: [WiX-users] Is click once what we should be using?

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Palmer
On 12/5/06, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found that there are very few degrees of freedom in ClickOnce. What is even more frustrating is that the Windows Installer supports all of the basic needs and everyone would have benefited if an auto-update story was built for the Windows

Re: [WiX-users] length of candle command line

2006-12-06 Thread Don Tasanasanta
Thanks, that'll help tremendously. What is the syntax inside an .rsp file? Don Tasanasanta 425-605-7423 From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:10 AM To: Don Tasanasanta;

Re: [WiX-users] length of candle command line

2006-12-06 Thread Rob Mensching
Same as all compiler response files, each command is white space delimited. From: Don Tasanasanta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:55 To: Rob Mensching; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] length of candle command line Thanks, that'll help

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread Erv Walter
Some answers to your questions (sorry, not all): #1. The official documentation for GenerateBootstrapper (the MSBuild task) is http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164294.aspx. I don't know where the official documentation for the bootstrapper itself it. You don't need to make a

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread Wilson, Phil
Just to add that if one wanted to see a consolidated list of how the bootstrapper manifest checks and installs products (and this includes SQL and J# 2.0), build a Visual Studio 2005 SetupDeployment project bootstrapper with all the prerequisites checked. This builds an exe with the manifest in

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread David Thielen
Hi; I think I'm not understanding something. I want the bootstrapper to give me a small setup.exe that will download things like the .NET framework only if needed on that user's computer. And I need the download to be a single file to make it easy. How can I build this? The examples I see all

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread Wilson, Phil
You mean you want the download for Windows Installer, SQL Express, .NET Framework, J# etc to be all in one file? Just trying to understand. Phil Wilson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread David Thielen
Hi; I looked for that the other day. In Setup and Deployment all I have is Setup Project, Merge Module Project, CAB Project, Web Setup Project, Setup Wizard, and Smart Device CAB Project. Is it one of those or do I need to download something? Thanks - dave David Thielen

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread David Thielen
No, the oppisate. I want setup.exe to be very small and it then will download the needed installers and run them only if needed. And it will download them from the MS website. So the user runs setup.exe and then when running, if they don't have .NET framework installed, it downloads it from

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread Erv Walter
I'm sorry that I'm confusing you and that we aren't communicating well. I thought I answered that twice now. I'll try again. In your MSBuild file, you have to specify where the bootstrapper should get the pre-reqs. You want them to be downloaded. So you set the ComponentLocation attribute of

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread Tony.Bjerstedt
The generated setup.exe file behaves as you desire and only downloads files that it needs to install. Only those files that are necessary to determine if a package needs to be installed (such as dotnetchk.exe) At least this is my experience. From: [EMAIL

Re: [WiX-users] turning logging on for installutil

2006-12-06 Thread Mike Dimmick
InstallUtil is not recommended. Managed code in installers is not recommended. InstallUtil.dll is not documented. The Visual Studio team might be able to help, but no-one else. Your best bet is probably to use FileMon (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Filemon.mspx) to

Re: [WiX-users] VS2005 C++ and Custom Actions

2006-12-06 Thread Mike Dimmick
It is recommended that custom action DLLs have the fewest dependencies possible, to avoid problems where the dependencies are not already present on the target machine. You should try to eliminate use of the CRT, if possible, and statically link with it to remove the dependency on the CRT

Re: [WiX-users] GenerateBootstrapper questions

2006-12-06 Thread Wilson, Phil
It's a Setup and Deployment project. Phil Wilson (949)639-1680 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:26 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users]

[WiX-users] Comparing two MSIs

2006-12-06 Thread Cullen Waters
Is there a tool out there to compare two MSIs? I'm moving our MSIs to wixv3, and I want to verify that the built MSIs are the same as previously. Cullen Waters SDET Office Live +1 425 706 6809 x 66809 - Take Surveys. Earn

Re: [WiX-users] Comparing two MSIs

2006-12-06 Thread Peterson, Joel
Orca is a fair good tool and will allow you to eyeball compare the tables, not sure it has any automatic comparison feature. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cullen Waters

Re: [WiX-users] Comparing two MSIs

2006-12-06 Thread Cullen Waters
A lot of our installers are pretty complex, and use a bunch of tables. I was hoping for something more automated. From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:36 PM To: Cullen Waters; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Comparing two

Re: [WiX-users] bootstrapper - final questions (I think)

2006-12-06 Thread Rob MacFadyen
David, For #1: The UI is _not_ configurable (with the exception of the title of the dialog boxes). The best way to structure this is to create a Self Extracting EXE that holds the Setup.exe and your MSI. Configure the Self Extracting EXE to run Setup.EXE when it is unpacked. ChilkatSoft.com

Re: [WiX-users] Comparing two MSIs

2006-12-06 Thread Michael Osmond
There's a script in the MSI SDK called WiDiffDb.vbs, I use it on occasion to do this. Michael _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peterson, Joel Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2006 9:36 AM To: Cullen Waters; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [WiX-users] bootstrapper - final questions (I think)

2006-12-06 Thread David Thielen
Does this strike anyone else as Rube Goldberg-like? A setup program that extracts a setup and msi and calls that setup which at the end calls the msi. I'm looking forward to WIX adding this functionality. Again, thank you for all the help. What/how to do this is not easy or intuitive so

Re: [WiX-users] VS2005 C++ and Custom Actions

2006-12-06 Thread Bob Arnson
Mike Dimmick wrote: You should try to eliminate use of the CRT, if possible, and statically link with it to remove the dependency on the CRT DLLs. There's nothing wrong with using the CRT as long as you statically link. The WiX custom actions should probably take the lead here and replace

Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist

2006-12-06 Thread Bob Arnson
Pallavi Patrutkar wrote: Some days before I was facing problem while upgradation from previous version to newer version. I added a new component that was adding a new registry value while installation. While upgradation, it was not installing some of the components properly while at the time

[WiX-users] Votive 3 Project Variables

2006-12-06 Thread Ben Rampling
I've recently upgraded some Votive projects from version 2 to version 3. In version 2, the following preprocessor variables existed: var.Project.ConfigurationName var.Project.ProjectDir var.Project.ProjectDosFileName var.Project.TargetDir var.SolutionDir (etc) In Votive 3, they don't seem to