Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-29 Thread Tobias S
Hi, maybe something regarding VS Merge modules vs. VCRedist or in general my dislike of merge modules: - Bad personal (+ colleagues) experience (merge modules in general) - Servicing - German literature stating Applications should not be based on Mergemodules for the installation of components

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Pally Sandher
Yeah if OpenOffice use concurrent installations it must be totally safe http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368010.aspx Stick with using the merge modules and/or a bootstrapper for the vcredist. If you don't need to bootstrap any other pre-reqs the merge modules are the easiest

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Tobias S
Hi, Yes I know the issues mentioned in MSDN about concurrent installers. But for the VCRedist.exe there were no issues at our customers site related to this implementation. For OpenOffice I mentioned it as it was the first package where I saw other engineers doing the same approach. I didn't want

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Pally Sandher
: 28 April 2011 14:53 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions Hi, Yes I know the issues mentioned in MSDN about concurrent installers. But for the VCRedist.exe there were no issues at our customers site related

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Bob Arnson
On 28-Apr-11 09:52, Tobias S wrote: - With this implementation the VCRedist installer runs at a point where the user can run the installation unattended (for bootstrapper normally waiting until completion necessary - not considering Burn here as it is in beta) - Most installs run in UI mode,

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Tobias S
Thanks for your feedback. I used the InstallUI sequence to install the VCRedist.exe and did nothing in InstallExecute sequence. So actually my implementation can lead to an installed product without installed VCRedist when user runs in /qn. When writing - Most installs run in UI mode,

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Wilson, Phil
from the UI sequence will fail because of insufficient privilege. Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:36 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Jeremy Farrell
From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] ... - Most installs run in UI mode Interesting, where did you get that information from? What's the ratio between UI-mode runs and silent, and how accurate is the estimate believed to be?

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Christopher Painter
attention? E-Mail Me --- On Thu, 4/28/11, Wilson, Phil phil.wil...@invensys.com wrote: From: Wilson, Phil phil.wil...@invensys.com Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, April

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Tobias S
Assumption based on personal experience as we ran at least the last 4 years the VCRedist during InstallUI. We nerver got customer issues regarding a missing VC runtime. This would be expected when they run unattended as there is (was) no abort criteria during InstallExecute when no VCRedist