Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-29 Thread Walt Dexter
That would be cool but I'm going to hold off until I'm fighting with the next one. This one is doing what I want. I'd say each time I make an MSI you guys teach me something else. On Jan 29, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Blair Murri os...@live.com wrote: Post a URL and we will interpret/educate on the

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Blair Murri
Are you doing a major upgrade or a recache/repair? Are the files it was killing off in the same feature as other files that were changed? Remember that features are installed/repaired/removed as a unit. Your verbose install logs should be telling you why it wanted to “replace” files that

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Walt Dexter
And there's the answer. They're all in the same feature. Can I move existing files between features in an upgrade? That would position me better the next time around. On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:36 AM, Blair Murri os...@live.com wrote: Are you doing a major upgrade or a recache/repair? Are

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Phil Wilson
You could move files (strictly components) around, but in most installs the features are units of functionality and not random collections of assorted files. A feature is the user's unit of functionality that can be added or removed, and moving files out of one often requires other changes such

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Walter Dexter
In my case the installer is always run as quiet and there's no interactions with any user. Our goal is to slip in and deliver stuff without their noticing. I naively put everything in a single feature. it sounds like I would be better served to sort the files into features based on actual

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Walter Dexter
So far as the logs, I have yet to ever find anything I can make sense of in an MSI log. I'm well aware that's my own deficiency but those things are 99.95% unintelligible to me. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Walter Dexter wfdex...@gmail.com wrote: In my case the installer is always run as

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Dave Andersen
Msi logs definitely have a LOT of information in them and can be really hard to comprehend, but I've found that being able to understand them is the most important ability for analyzing msi problems (at least for me). One thing that helped me a lot to understand how to interpret them is this

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-28 Thread Blair Murri
Post a URL and we will interpret/educate on the interpretation thereof Walter Dexter wfdex...@gmail.com wrote: So far as the logs, I have yet to ever find anything I can make sense of in an MSI log. I'm well aware that's my own deficiency but those things are 99.95% unintelligible to me. On

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-27 Thread Walter Dexter
] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:12 AM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7 I tried MSIRMSHUTDOWN = 2, and REBOOT is = ReallySuppress. Behavior is the same - with /quiet it just quietly kills the exe off

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-27 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2014-01-27 Walter Dexter wfdex...@gmail.com: Got it! I haven't worked out all the details but changing the MSIRMSHUTDOWN property to 0 makes it do what I wanted. Note that in this case the .exe files that I want to keep running aren't actually being modified. Our deployment folks just don't

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-27 Thread Walter Dexter
I believe that is only true for versioned files, although I may be mistaken. In this particular case (properly versioned .Net 3.5 executables) they were unchanged and should not have been replaced according to my, and your, understanding of the rules. Despite that, Windows Installer was killing

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-26 Thread Walter Dexter
busy executables at reboot - Windows 7 I have an embedded system running Windows POSReady 7 (Windows 7 for POS devices.) I have an MSI that installs a collection of .Net .exe files, VBScripts, and other stuff. Three of the executables are always running under a user account

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-25 Thread Walter Dexter
[mailto:wfdex...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:10 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7 I have an embedded system running Windows POSReady 7 (Windows 7 for POS devices.) I have an MSI

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-25 Thread Rob Mensching
] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:12 AM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7 I tried MSIRMSHUTDOWN = 2, and REBOOT is = ReallySuppress. Behavior is the same - with /quiet it just quietly kills the exe off, without

[WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-24 Thread Walter Dexter
I have an embedded system running Windows POSReady 7 (Windows 7 for POS devices.) I have an MSI that installs a collection of .Net .exe files, VBScripts, and other stuff. Three of the executables are always running under a user account. That's just a normal thing on this device - it boots,

Re: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot - Windows 7

2014-01-24 Thread Rob Mensching
What about the MSIRMSHUTDOWN property and maybe the REBOOT property. -Original Message- From: Walter Dexter [mailto:wfdex...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:10 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] Install busy executables at reboot