Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, mwp wrote: I think it may be a peculiarly American thing to demand of art that it be entertaining. May be. I've never felt comfortable with the term myself, although I respect it when artists like Anderson and Fonda take it up. To me, Godard's Tout va bien (starring

Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
Just read a critique of him in Peat's book on Bohm. Someday I'll write about Bohm - Alan On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, David-Baptiste Chirot wrote: There are some things so serious it is best to laugh about them--Werner Heisenberg From: Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WRYTING-L :

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2005-07-18 Thread Dan Waber
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Re: [webartery] State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Ciccariello
Joel said: "With all the science and technology, more peoplefeel disconnected, and thus are becoming neurotically attached to cellphones, to constant conversation, to constant entertainment, to being intouch with everyone but themselves." Fine thought Joel, I am reminded of ATT's "Reach out and

Re: [webartery] State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Ciccariello
My apologies, bad choice of words. -Peter -Original Message-From: mIEKAL aND [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CASent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:32:23 -0500Subject: Re: [webartery] State of new media from strawberry fields forever - As someone who met my partner online I can

Moth Radio -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
Moth Radio - an unpublished letter by Edwin Way Teale found in a copy of Near Horizons, Dodd, Mead, and Company, NY, 1942, bought at Heights Books in Brooklyn, NY, May 2005 - Edwin Way Teale 93 Park Avenue Baldwin, L. I. New York January 10, 19(4/5)3 */typewriter overstrike; the date is

Re: Moth Radio -

2005-07-18 Thread Gerald Schwartz
Alan: This is amazin... thyank you for sharing. Jerry Moth Radio - an unpublished letter by Edwin Way Teale found in a copy of Near Horizons, Dodd, Mead, and Company, NY, 1942, bought at Heights Books in Brooklyn, NY, May 2005 - Edwin Way Teale 93 Park Avenue Baldwin, L. I. New York

Re: Moth Radio -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
The book is wonderful - many many photographs of insects close-up - something we take for granted, but was still wonderous in 1942. - - Alan On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Gerald Schwartz wrote: Alan: This is amazin... thyank you for sharing. Jerry Moth Radio - an unpublished letter by Edwin Way

Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote: Alan: This must be answered, and not just by me, as it touches on so much of what I, and I guess others who work almost exclusively in the digital, have thought and think about. Let's start at a signpost, this one being the Paleolithic caves. Did the

Re: Moth Radio -

2005-07-18 Thread Gerald Schwartz
I have a number of his books, mostly dealing with seasons and regions. It's a guilty pleasure, but he was a great prose writer. The book is wonderful - many many photographs of insects close-up - something we take for granted, but was still wonderous in 1942. - - Alan On Mon, 18 Jul 2005,

Re: [webartery] Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Joel Weishaus
Alan: Difficult to reply in this format to all that you've said, but I'll give it a try. -Of course many artists are forgotten. How many artists must have been in Paris during the first half of the century of whom we've never heard, some of them must have been as talented as the ones we know.

Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote: -Of course many artists are forgotten. How many artists must have been in Paris during the first half of the century of whom we've never heard, some of them must have been as talented as the ones we know. But, they contributed nonetheless. And even now

In Defense Of Poetry

2005-07-18 Thread Lewis LaCook
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Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Joel Weishaus
Well, you usually take the opposite view to mine, that's why we're friends. -Joel - Original Message - From: Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever - On Mon,

Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
Absolutely. And with me I think it comes out of a bit of a depressive nature - I generally tend to be loudmouthed and feel invisible at the same time. - Alan On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote: Well, you usually take the opposite view to mine, that's why we're friends. -Joel -

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2005-07-18 Thread Lanny R.
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Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread mwp
Rebus 01 2005 Words are replaced with the first image that appears in Alltheweb’s image search. If a word appears more than once, the next image in the list is selected so that there is no repetition of images. For this initial experiment, I borrow one of Jenny Holzer’s most famous Truisms,

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread Joel Weishaus
I don't get this. But then, I never got Jenny Holtzer either. -Joel - Original Message - From: mwp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Rebus 01 Rebus 01 2005 Words are replaced with the first image that appears in

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread justin . katko
considering the public spaces that holtzer's truisms occup(y)ied, the pop nature of these images is very rich. family dog, family photo internet porn, video games . . . what's there not to get? input processed to output. an equation right? jUStin On 7/18/05, Joel Weishaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread mwp
Yep, a basic A = B equation, where A = word, and B = image. One image per word, no matter how small. The underlying violence is also interesting, with the dog wearing the US flag, etc. m On Jul 18, 2005, at 4:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: considering the public spaces that holtzer's

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread justin . katko
i didn't even notice the flag. is the visual arrangement of the images derived procedurally as well? jUStin On 7/18/05, mwp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, a basic A = B equation, where A = word, and B = image. One image per word, no matter how small. The underlying violence is also

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread mwp
No, it's just what fits most compactly in the allotted space without leaving too many blank spaces. m On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i didn't even notice the flag. is the visual arrangement of the images derived procedurally as well? jUStin On 7/18/05, mwp [EMAIL

Rebus 02

2005-07-18 Thread mwp
Here’s one that turned out a bit more explicit. I guess it’s inevitable when images are culled from the web nowadays. (This is the last one I will post to Wryting, so no complaints!) PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/protectmefromw.jpg

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread Lanny R.
I have seen a large room done by Holzer at the DMA but none of the outdoor or in situ public works. She was an inspiration when I was a 19yr old college student studying video and computer art in the 80's on the Amiga at UTA in Arlington. We all liked to do little text scrolling pieces which were

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread Lanny R.
couldn't resist.. What's http://www.gothamist.com/weather/images/kp_sunFinally.jpg There http://www.tsolocations.com/graphics/there/th_scened.gif Not http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/2001-08-26/not-found.jpg To http://www.learn2type.com/images/typing_tests/free-typing-tests.jpg Get?

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread mwp
Thanks, Lanny! You nailed it with your usual googlesyllabic excellence. Words are as much found object and cultural capital as images. Jenny H just applied Duchamp to words. (What's with the R at the end of your name, recently?) m On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Lanny R. wrote: I have seen a

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread Joel Weishaus
Holtzer gave a lecture at The University of New Mexico when I was a curator at the Art Museum there. Frankly, I found her work superficial, with no more depth of language or ideas than the Evening News. But I may be in the minority here. -Joel - Original Message - From: Lanny R. [EMAIL

Re: the real horror

2005-07-18 Thread Joel Weishaus
Oh yes. This is first-rate. -Joel - Original Message - From: Bob Marcacci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: the real horror another machine doing the same thing they whisper what was he like

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2005-07-18 Thread Catherin E
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Re: how

2005-07-18 Thread Lanny Quarles
how now, brown cow?

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread justin . katko
holzer's work: thousands of people have seen it - this is why mark's procedure is interesting. thousands of people see the image google hits that holzer's words are pulling up. would the rebi placed on billboards have the same effect as the original holzer pieces? not that they should, but the

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread Lanny Quarles
when i say flat, i am really talking about a kind of condensation as in: MURDER HAS ITS SEXUAL SIDE the phrase is noticeably lacking in emotional affect, the reality that lies beneathe such a proclamation has such intense emotions and so much tragedy involved its hard to even think of what to

Re: Rebus 01

2005-07-18 Thread Lanny Quarles
No Joel, You LIVE it... - Original Message - From: Joel Weishaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Rebus 01 Here's a woman who represented her country in Venice as the best it has to offer, has had books published on

Re: Fwd: I am very disappointed in POETICLIST.

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
Miekal - why not say something directly? The book you and Maria did is superb! love Alan On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, mIEKAL aND wrote: somebody should get this guy signed up on WRYTING... his works are pretty tweaked what a great domain name. Begin forwarded message: From: Uh Ak [EMAIL

linear arrangments 18-21

2005-07-18 Thread Lanny Quarles
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