Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread phanero
This is a great article.. Have a character. JP: Perhaps to ask code and coders to think again about the way in which they see the world, to move from objects to things, and practice code as poetry (poeisis). Rather than code as ordering the world, fixing and overcoding. Code as a craft,

Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
Personally I find the wd. code so miused at this point as to be close to pointless itself. I go back to things like Shannon/Weaver/information theory on one hand, Eco on the other. D/G have nothing to say about it, and for me overly-theorizing/metamorphizing the concept makes it even more

Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread phanero
When did code ever 'order the world'? Not even the Dewey Decimal System does that. I'll have to differ on this.. the words themselves are the stumbling blocks, but it seems to me like your overdetermining the concept of 'order', and yet there can also be a sense where the overdtermination is

Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread phanero
The Field of Qualia Jack Sarfatti August 26, 1996 How are our thoughts -- our consciousness -- translated into action? I actually have a detailed theory of this based upon an extension of Bohm's 1952 quantum pilot-wave/classical material hidden variable theory. Note, the more modern term for

Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, phanero wrote: When did code ever 'order the world'? Not even the Dewey Decimal System does that. I'll have to differ on this.. the words themselves are the stumbling blocks, but it seems to me like your overdetermining the concept of 'order', and yet there can also be a

Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
I'm aware of qualia. I'm not sure this has any application at all on the level of the lifeworld or neural functioning. I tend to agree w/Edelman; even Penrose would have a different take. But I'm not going to keep going on about this - as I wrote you backchannel, we're worlds apart on this and

Re: What is Code?

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Re: What is Code?

2005-12-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
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