Re: [WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-02 Thread Moose
does anyone else feel that :hover is a little too enticing and likely to lead to some accessibility issues? No. I seriously hope this part of CSS doesn't get blacklisted as inaccessible. depends on what you're using it for of course, Exactly. Any tool can be misused in a variety of ways. There

[WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-02 Thread Ben Boyle
does anyone else feel that :hover is a little too enticing and likely to lead to some accessibility issues? depends on what you're using it for of course, rollover images is a non-issue, but for things like rollover menus, where's the keyboard support? just a random thought.

[WSG] Russ strikes again

2003-12-02 Thread Mark Stanton
I swear /. is next. http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2003_12.html#a000259 Can you spell T_tal W_rld D_mination? Well done Russ, keep up the mighty fine work. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956

Re: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

2003-12-02 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Hello Chris; At 04:28 AM 12/3/2003 +1100, you wrote: I have noticed that the scrollbar colouring is not a standard piece of CSS material For example: Body { background-color: #EE; scrollbar-base-color: #808080; scrollbar-arrow-color: #808080; scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #008000;

Re: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

2003-12-02 Thread Neil Christensen
. . .it works in Internet Explorer. That's because scrollbar coloring is Microsoft proprietary CSS.Furthermore, it is not defined orendorsed by the W3C. (http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/scrollbars.html) Neil ChristensenWeb CoordinatorSalt Lake City School District WEBSITE:

RE: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

2003-12-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Chris, I think the first thing is that it's an annoyance to some (read: me). Whenever I look at http://virginblue.com.au/ I groan and think that some little kid had a field day with Frontpage. (Hopefully the author isn't on the list. Sorry if you are.) Let the system do the chrome

[WSG] Web standards brain dump...

2003-12-02 Thread russ weakley
I am going to do a quick talk about web standards to a group of final year students tomorrow. As with all of us, I'm up to my eyeballs in work. So, I thought I'd do a brain dump and then get feedback from the group. Lean and clean! Building a site with web standards

Re: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

2003-12-02 Thread Rob Halff
I think it's a shame it isn't part of the CSS specification, how about when using overflow: auto; ? The scrollbar can be in the middle of the page and will be the only element that isn't styleable.. which kinda ..ucks.. :-) To my opinion every element appearing inside the page should be

RE: [WSG] Russ strikes again

2003-12-02 Thread Lindsay Evans
Mark Stanton wrote: I swear /. is next. http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2003_12.html#a000259 Can you spell T_tal W_rld D_mination? Well done Russ, keep up the mighty fine work. heh - Russ Weaklyorial Still no Russ Method though :) -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square

Re: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

2003-12-02 Thread James Ellis
Hi Scrollbars are browser widgets, not the viewport - this is why valid CSS2 doesn't include the MS only values you mention. Scrollbars are set by the OS - they should remain consistent with the other programs a user is using to ensure a consistent experience. For instance setting a scrollbar

RE: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

2003-12-02 Thread Mark Stanton
Hey Chris As people have mentioned scroll bar colouring is not part of the W3C spec yadda, yadda.. My 2c, personally I don't like changing scroll bar colours and other aspects of the user's environment, but for certain clients we will do it. It doesn't have any detrimental effect in other