They look at it from a purely visual point, the advantages of css for
accessibility will outweigh getting the layout right for 0.01% of the
viewing population.
One of the comments had me in shock,
"The important thing to remember here is that the new CCS'ed documents
should render well on older b
Well, we have seen some amazing stuff come out of TheManinBlue - auto
accessible forms, css scrabble...
Is this a hint about an upcoming project? Something like a
Blind-monkey-auto-layout-tool ?
:)
Russ
> Geeze, if Slashdot is meant to be the domain of
> supposedly tech-savvy readers, it's scar
Geeze, if Slashdot is meant to be the domain of
supposedly tech-savvy readers, it's scary how many of
them know jack-all about Web development.
And statements like "I'd support standards if any
modern browser was compliant" ... Sure, they're not
compliant, but for styling most of the pages
mention
Oh ffs... Sorry people (about the sig... again).
Heres the original...
Hi Miles,
> The first thing I though was 'oooh, how did he get the Go
> buttons to align so nicely with the form fields?', coz I had
> been trying to do it without resorting to a table or the
> deprecated align=absmiddl
Hi Miles,
> The first thing I though was 'oooh, how did he get the Go
> buttons to align so nicely with the form fields?', coz I had
> been trying to do it without resorting to a table or the
> deprecated align=absmiddle parameter. Then I realised you're
> using images which gets around the p
On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, at 03:57 PM, Miles Tillinger wrote:
I've managed to get it basically perfect in IE6, but there is small
2-3 pixel discrepancy in Mozilla and Opera (haven't had a chance to
check on Safari yet *shudder*) down the left side of the right column.
I'm guessing that its
Sorry no answer to the problem... But your services div has a margin
left of 197 and your splitter one has a margin left of 200. The splitter
seems to be pushing out as well in ie5.0, im not sure why that is.
Probably the width of the feature or services div becomes smaller in ie5
and so its out of
Hi Mike,
> I can't contribute anything on the mac side, but I have to
> say I like it.
> I like the graphic device of using the fine white lines
> across the page and
> down. Nice effect. And the transparent effect in the
> heading looks great
> too. Very smooth.
Well, I'm just a lowly co
There is:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat12.cfm
Feel free to add your own work to this section, as that is what it is for!
Russ
> That's that only thing I could find in what is an aesthetically pleasing
> design that is a credit to the WSG. Maybe it's time for a WSG Member's
> port
Very nice indeed James, thanks for passing me the links otherwise I would've missed
out on seeing it...
The first word bold, second word normal thing seems to be gaining momentum amongst the
various CSS sites I've seen lately, understandably as it is a nice effect for titles.
The first thing I
I can't contribute anything on the mac side, but I have to say I like it.
I like the graphic device of using the fine white lines across the page and
down. Nice effect. And the transparent effect in the heading looks great
too. Very smooth.
I think it's a clever way to use boxes as wide as th
> - with a few little coding tweaks you could probably
> eliminate most of your CSS IE width hacks.
Hi Ben,
I'm assuming you're refering to the use of "padding" divs (which is the method
I normally use). If not, then please let me know.
I chose to use the IE5 box model hack this time around as
Good one Jeff!
Great work and a very interesting interview.
Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] WSG member gets a good wrap
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:32:40 +1000
>Always exciting to see a WSG member getting a good wrap!
>
>The Weekly Standa
Finally a chance for my first attempt at a 100% CSS positioning site and besides using
the deprecated align parameter for an input:image, the site validates ok!
http://streetdaddy.gotdns.com/astute/index.html
http://streetdaddy.gotdns.com/astute/main.css
http://streetdaddy.gotdns.com/astute/astut
> 'Can't open this item. Your Digital ID name can not be found
> by the underlying security system'
My apologies Miles and WSG members.
This has been raised as an issue in the past and the general consensus (at
least at Gruden) was to remove sigs before posting to the list.
Unfortunately, I fo
Always exciting to see a WSG member getting a good wrap!
The Weekly Standard has given this weeks award to Jeff Lowder from
Accessibility 1st for his site - Young Achievement Australia. There is a
review of the site and also an interview with Jeff:
http://www.weeklystandards.com/archives/2004/03/
Firstly, apologies for the OT repost and I'm not even sure if anyone else worries
about this, but...
First list member I started having the problem with was Mark Stanton back in January,
now James Silva and Gary Greer as well (and another one-off from Dominique something
or other). I'm using M
pretty slick, I like it..
- with a few little coding tweaks you could probably eliminate most of
your CSS IE width hacks.
- Rollover colours on top nav could have more contrast - difficult to
read dark on dark..
- It seems weird to me that the underline disappears on mouseover of
regular links.
Hi Leo.
What was the URL for the tutorial?
gary
Leo J. O'Campo wrote:
So Gary... What is complicating it? Just remember to put a clear:
both; in the footer rule
Just check out this excellent tutorial on how to create footer for a 2
column layout. It step by step by the numbers, easy.
Leo
Hi guys,
Just looking for some feedback on our latest job*... Feel free to tear it a
new one :P
Sample homepage:
http://www.gruden.com/dev_sites/blacktown/templates/homepage.htm
Sample content page:
http://www.gruden.com/dev_sites/blacktown/templates/content.htm
CSS is at:
http://www.gruden.com
http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/03/30/0041253.shtml?tid=106&tid=126&t
id=185&tid=95
Very interesting - even if just to demonstrate how little most people
understand about CSS.
Cheers
Mark
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Mark Stanton
Technical Director
Gruden Pty Ltd
Tel: 9956 6388
Mob: 0410 45
Thanks much, I've forwarded this info to my server host. Weird.
Peter
On 30/03/2004, at 10:09 AM, P.H.Lauke wrote:
Your server is erroneously sending the CSS as text/html, which is the wrong MIME type as it should be text/css.
Check your server config.
Universal Head
Design That Works.
7/43 Br
I think Patrick eserves a hand for stayingup so late!
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- Original Message -
From: "P.H.Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] What tha!?
> Your server is erroneously sending the CSS as text/html, which is
On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 11:07 AM, John Penlington wrote:
Forgive my frustration, but after a couple of months with this
Discussion List I've formed the opinion no browser will display web
standards - every one of them requires hacks of some kind.
I test on Win XP Pro with IE6 and Firefo
>
I just checked my site
www.cinema4duser.com in Mozilla and it wasn't applying CSS.
have
you validated your CSS?
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
I find
that if part of the CSS is invalid, Mozilla ignores the whole thing.
Sometimes even a single line will crash it.
Try
commenting
Peter,
I have had a similar problem with the BHP Billiton site recently. It
looks like the server does not have the mime type for CSS set
correctly.
In Mozilla, if you select Tools, Web Development, then Javascript
Console, you should see an error message reading:
Error: The stylesheet http://ww
Jut a quick note - can everyone please try to provide a summary of their
problem in their subject line. Subjects such as:
[WSG] What tha!?
[WSG] Somewhat frustrated
[WSG] Some suggestions needed
[WSG] What's wrong with this page??
...really provide us with no information related to the content of
Your server is erroneously sending the CSS as text/html, which is the wrong MIME type
as it should be text/css.
Check your server config.
p.s.: apologies if this formats wrong...outlook web client is buggy
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster
External Relations
I just checked my site www.cinema4duser.com in Mozilla and it wasn't applying CSS. what the A#%^$* have I done??
Thanks
Peter
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John,
Yes, there are slight differences in browsers, but these are easy to
overcome. There are a lot of un-needed classes in your code. The aim is to
use as few as possible, and use descendant selectors to do their work.
Theoretically, for this layout you should only need a few id's on the
contain
Good evening Jeremy,
It was foretold that on 29-3-2004 @ 14:10:01 GMT-0600 (which was
22:10:01 where I live) Jeremy Flint would mumble:
JF> sure. why not.
Thanks Jeremy. You described what i was thinking but couldn't get
the words right :-)
--
Best regards,
Luc
sure. why not.
-
Jeremy Flint
www.jeremyflint.com
Luc wrote:
Good evening Jeremy,
It was foretold that on 29-3-2004 @ 12:29:47 GMT-0600 (which was
20:29:47 where I live) Jeremy Flint would mumble:
JF> BTW, even with tables, sites will look differently on different
JF> browsers. You
Good evening Jeremy,
It was foretold that on 29-3-2004 @ 12:29:47 GMT-0600 (which was
20:29:47 where I live) Jeremy Flint would mumble:
JF> BTW, even with tables, sites will look differently on different
JF> browsers. You speak of having to use hacks to get CSS to render
JF> correctly in
So Gary... What is complicating it? Just remember to put a clear:
both; in the footer rule
Just check out this excellent tutorial on how to create footer for a 2
column layout. It step by step by the numbers, easy.
Leo
On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 02:25 AM, Gary Greer wrote:
Looking at h
Wow, that menu gives me a headache with all the flying out and in and such.
The footer looks fairly easy.
It seems to be basically a 2 column layout, maybe a wrapper div to allow
the background colors to bleed off the edge.
use border: 1px dotted #hex for the...um, borders. I don;t think it
I am using Firefox and IE6 on win2k and i don't see a difference.
Aside from that, why would pixel-precision be needed on such an open
layout? I mean, there aren't even any borders or anything.
Also, it would help to show us the page using all css, not the tables
version.
BTW, even with tables
Hi John,
I understand your frustrations. Let me respond to a few things you said.
>Forgive my frustration, but after a couple of months with this Discussion
List I've formed the opinion no browser >will display web standards - every
one of them requires hacks of some kind.
This is true of non-st
I am far from an expert yet, but your
display issues are very similar to what I got the first time around using CSS –
I discovered IDs rather than classes fro layers provides more precision.
Also, you might want to try dropping the
and running block level text.
Brian
Fr
Forgive my frustration, but after a couple of
months with this Discussion List I've formed the opinion no browser will display
web standards - every one of them requires hacks of some kind.
I test on Win XP Pro with IE6 and Firefox - as well
as on a new eMac with Safari and IE5(Mac).
All
Here are a few more skip link references:
http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/navigation#skiplinks
Laura
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Laura L. Carlson
Information Technology Systems and Services
University of Minnesota Duluth
Duluth, MN 55812-3009
http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/webdesign
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Title: Some display issues in IE and Opera
Hello all,
I am setting up Zen-Cart on my site and have run into a couple of snags in regards to Opera and one in IE.
I thought I had done something wrong, but it ain't me as all other Zen Carts following this style are displaying the same
The ri
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