[WSG] Sydney WSG meeting

2004-08-05 Thread russ - maxdesign
Thanks to all those who attended last nights Sydney WSG. We had 38 people, so it was another big night. There were three topics covered. 1. WE04 update John Allsopp talked about the upcoming Sydney Web Essentials conference (http://we04.com). One exciting addition to the program will be the "Web

RE: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox

2004-08-05 Thread Adam Hough
Deee, here is the url http://www.pir.com.au/forum2004/navtest.htm Original Message Follows From: "Adam Hough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13

RE: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox

2004-08-05 Thread Barry Beattie
>> http://localhost/forum2004/navtest.htm localhost? not for me... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Hough Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/

[WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox

2004-08-05 Thread Adam Hough
here is the url i am talking about http://localhost/forum2004/navtest.htm i have 2 css problems with my suckerfish implementation; 1. in IE6 the sub menu is sitting to the right of the parent menu . Not sure why. it seems ok in firefox. 2. however in both firefox and IE the sub menu sits at th

[WSG] [ADMIN] A plea for plain text to the list

2004-08-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, In the last couple of days I have been getting many bounces from the list by mail servers blocking posts as spam because they are in HTML or Outlook Rich Text format. Can I again ask that you try to remember to set your emails to plain text rather than HTML when posting to the list. If

Re: [WSG] Problem with IE 5

2004-08-05 Thread Ben Bishop
Hi Giles, > but when using IE 5 the headlins in the main body slip under the nav bar. > Is there a quick hack for this or have I made a fundamental cock-up at the > outset with my code? It's all you :) I'm guessing the reason IE5 hides your headings is the "top:1px;" in your #centreblock. When yo

RE: [WSG] Why has the background jumped to the right in IE?

2004-08-05 Thread Adam Hough
Seona, i've had a look in ie6 and firefox on pc and the right hand menu pops out to the left. it looks ok to me in both browsers although not pixel perfect. todays special box looks ok too. Original Message Follows From: "Seona Bellamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread scott parsons
While I think this approach has a real basis for fairly simple sites, once you start getting into more complex sites, and web applications the time taken to step back and plan is usually well worthwhile. This is where I like to have good clear wireframes which have been thought out clearly to c

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread Justin French
I try and move the site away from paper and photoshop into "lots of grey boxes using XHTML and CSS" as soon as possible. I guess it's somewhere in between a wireframe and prototype. Considering everything is just groups of DIVs with IDs and classes, standards make it really easy to shuffle th

FIXED: [WSG] Why has the background jumped to the right in IE?

2004-08-05 Thread Seona Bellamy
Ignore my last message, I've managed to fix the navbar problem. Added Position:relative to the CSS for the navbar and back it came. :) Cheers, Seona. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke > Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 10:47

RE: [WSG] Why has the background jumped to the right in IE?

2004-08-05 Thread Seona Bellamy
Great, that gets the misbehaving background back in place. But it still hasn't cured my disappearing menu. I've found that it's also moved off to the right, thus disappearing off the screen. *sigh* Thanks for the background fix, though. :) Cheers, Seona. > -Original Message- > From: [EM

RE: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibility Tool bar

2004-08-05 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibility Tool bar Hi, Does anyone know if there's a firefox equivalent? Thanks, Jamie -Original Message- From: russ - maxdesign [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 August 2004 05:36 To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibilit

RE: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibility Tool bar

2004-08-05 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibility Tool bar Hi, Cheers guys, I have that already, I just wondered if the ie toolbar had features this firefox one didn't, and a version was available for firefox. Jamie Mason: Design // Skysports.com, Central House, Beckwith Knowle, Otley Road, Harrogat

Re: [WSG] Why has the background jumped to the right in IE?

2004-08-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Not looked too closely at your markup or existing CSS, but adding #specials_pane { position: absolute; top: 0; } seems to cure the problem in IE6 Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively.

[WSG] Why has the background jumped to the right in IE?

2004-08-05 Thread Seona Bellamy
Hi guys, If you have a look at this page in IE6/Win (not sure if it does the same in IE5 or not) you might see that the "Today's Special" box is floating out over the main content. It is supposed to sit under the picture that it beside it and to the right. It did this perfectly yesterday, and does

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread Neerav
http://www.iawiki.net/WireFrames -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Hugh Todd wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what are 'wireframes'? I pre

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread Hugh Todd
Pardon my ignorance, but what are 'wireframes'? I prefer building prototypes than hagging over wireframes. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to th

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread Sarah Sammis
> > From my perspective, a prototype has more value than wireframes. Web > standards make development much more rapid, so we can respond quickly to > any > other needs thrown up before going into production. > > What do you think? > > All the best, I prefer building prototypes than hagging over wi

Re: [WSG] Horizontal List in Mac IE

2004-08-05 Thread James Ellis
Jaime I guess you are having the problem where IE Mac doesn't float your list elements properly and they all go to 100% width down the page? I did this to solve the problem.. you need to float the anchor to the left as well.. it's the only hack I use: #menu ul li { float : left;

RE: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread Ted Drake
we had a project drag on in the wireframes stage and it wasn't until we went with prototypes that it got anywhere. I think the conflict you experienced is based on the expectation of time involved and possibly your creative decisions being done without other people having input. I would suggest

[WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-05 Thread Ian Fenn
Hello, I'm in the process of redesigning a website. My client wanted something to show internal stakeholders so I started doing a few wireframes but suddenly wondered, "Why am I doing this? Why don't I just build the website using web standards?" A day later I finished a working prototype of the

Re: [WSG] Lists and Opera

2004-08-05 Thread Mordechai Peller
Razvan Pop wrote: I am having some problems with lists in Opera. Looks fine in IE and Firefox. The URL: http://work.insoft.ro/ THE CSS: http://work.insoft.ro/stiluri/astraroger.css Taking an educated guess, it looks like it stems from Opera's alternate handling of floated elements without a spe

[WSG] Horizontal List in Mac IE

2004-08-05 Thread JW
Hi Everyone I am having problem with horizontal list in when viewed in Mac IE. http://design.sodesires.com/inspiration/ Anyone can tell me why it is not showing as inline? Any solutions? CSS as follow: #menu { font-family : Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, Geneva;