[WSG] best way to style addresses

2005-12-22 Thread tee
Hi there, I am working on a page that involves with hundred of address in different locations/cities. What is the best way to do? unordered list, definition list or table data? I am thinking to make two columns for address. Did a similar page sometimes ago with unordered list with two

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread designer
Most important thing I learned was that XHTML is just 'tag soup' unless you serve it properly. (application/xhtml+xml). In consequence, the worst thing was finding that I had to have a radical rethink about my approach to producing web pages . . . Merry Christmas everybody, and thanks for

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/22, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Still looking for a valid replacement to the IE CSS, display: inline-block; thing... What am I missing? display: inline-block is perfectly valid in CSS2.1 Is your problem that CSS validator defaults to CSS2 profile? You can change that selecting

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005. The summary attribute is best used to describe the structure of the table, not to summarise it's content ...ooops :) This is the best thing I've learnt this year now too!! Thanks a lot, ...and a general thanks to the people of

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Christopher Townson
Terrence Wood wrote: HTH, please share your discovery in 2005. ... the moment when it (finally) dawned on me that CSS is object-based ! ;) + getting into microformats combining these two was an eye-opener: define abtract, re-usable formats for (X)HTML + package with accompanying CSS =

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Jay Gilmore
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: 2005/12/22, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Still looking for a valid replacement to the IE CSS, display: inline-block; thing... What am I missing? display: inline-block is perfectly valid in CSS2.1 Is your problem that CSS validator

Re: [WSG] best way to style addresses

2005-12-22 Thread sam sherlock
Example: ADDRESS Newsletter editorBR J.R. BrownBR 8723 Buena Vista, Smallville, CT 01234BR Tel: +1 (123) 456 7890 /ADDRESS with whatever styling provided by CSS you care for. for more details see the link below http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html tee wrote: Hi there, I am

[WSG] xhtml DTD

2005-12-22 Thread Spark
hya I use this W3C document as a reference to know which tag may go inside other: http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/xhtml-modularization-19990406/DTD/doc/xhtml1-t.elt.html I never found nothing else like that (such a DTD visual representation), but what I want to know is: is it the latest version ?

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Bob Schwartz
Christopher, + getting into microformats I guess I missed something along the way. Where can I find out more about this? Bob ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] best way to style addresses

2005-12-22 Thread Ben Wong
I remember this question coming up before on this list. IIRC we concluded that address / was only used for contact info for the author of the document. from W3C HTML 4.01 spec: The ADDRESS element may be used by authors to supply contact information for a document or a major part of a document

Re: [WSG] best way to style addresses

2005-12-22 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day sam sherlock wrote: for more details see the link below http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html Which is HTML 3 (quite outdated) but says... The ADDRESS element specifies such information as address, signature and authorship for the current document But... tee wrote: I am

Re: [WSG] xhtml DTD

2005-12-22 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Spark wrote: I use this W3C document as a reference to know which tag may go inside other: http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/xhtml-modularization-19990406/DTD/doc/xhtml1-t.elt.html I never found nothing else like that (such a DTD visual representation), but what I want to know is: is it the latest

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Bob Schwartz wrote: Christopher, + getting into microformats I guess I missed something along the way. Where can I find out more about this? http://microformats.org/ -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] best way to style addresses

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Heiden
Tee, on Thursday, December 22, 2005 at 10:03 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: I am working on a page that involves with hundred of address in different locations/cities. What is the best way to do? unordered list, definition list or table data? I am thinking to make two columns for

Re: [WSG] xhtml DTD

2005-12-22 Thread Spark
hi, On 12/22/05, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spark wrote: I use this W3C document as a reference to know which tag may go inside other: http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/xhtml-modularization-19990406/DTD/doc/xhtml1-t.elt.html I never found nothing else like that (such a DTD

Re: [WSG] best way to style addresses

2005-12-22 Thread Christopher Townson
tee wrote: Hi there, I am working on a page that involves with hundred of address in different locations/cities. What is the best way to do? unordered list, definition list or table data? how about this: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard ? Chris

Re: [WSG] xhtml DTD

2005-12-22 Thread Bert Doorn
Spark wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/elements.html Although is a useful list, it's not good for what I pointed: knowing what can go inside what. Like can I put a Heading tag inside a DT? (no) , or can a put an A here in the BODY ? (no , you can't). Does anyone have any suggestion ?

[WSG] Site Check Please (Clattco)

2005-12-22 Thread Jay Gilmore
Hello All, I would like to know if I have made any huge gaffes with this site (http://www.smashingred.com/clientspace/clattco/). Nearly complete and just requires copywriting completion. Specifically the following are of interest: Rendering on mac in Safari and IE, Usability, Mistakes I may

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-12-22 Thread Gallagher, Robin
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[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-12-22 Thread Matthew Harris
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Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Leslie Riggs
You see, THAT is the best thing I learnt in 2005 - that there are always more things to learn! Just getting my toes wet in microformats, and understanding a bit more about XHTML... Leslie Riggs Christopher, + getting into microformats I guess I missed something along the way. Where

[WSG] Mac FF hidden div still shows scrollbars

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Livingston
Hi listers, We have a div being hidden (visibility:hidden;) and then using javascript to show hide layers (sort of a pop-up but not sorta thing). If we give it a height and apply overflow:scroll; (or auto) it looks and works dandy, except for Mac FF (1.5). We are still seeing the div's

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Clattco)

2005-12-22 Thread Kenny Graham
With larger text sizes, your sidebar headings become white on white. I'd suggest vertically expanding that background image, or setting a similar background color along with the image. That and a few things like empty paragraph elements and stray /div on some of the pages. Last (and probably

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Clattco)

2005-12-22 Thread Kenny Graham
Last (and probably least), a future-proofing warning: If you ever decide to serve that site as xhtml instead of text/html, it'll break because of the content of your style elements. Nevermind, it might not. I've become so paranoid that I tend to enclose any non-xml/html in cdata's because I

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Clattco)

2005-12-22 Thread Jay Gilmore
Kenny Graham (thoughtfully) wrote: With larger text sizes, your sidebar headings become white on white. I'd suggest vertically expanding that background image, or setting a similar background color along with the image. That and a few things like empty paragraph elements and stray /div on

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Clattco)

2005-12-22 Thread Felix Miata
Jay Gilmore wrote: I would like to know if I have made any huge gaffes with this site (http://www.smashingred.com/clientspace/clattco/). Nearly complete and just requires copywriting completion. All opinions are welcome. If there are mistakes out of ignorance please point me to a

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
designer wrote: Most important thing I learned was that XHTML is just 'tag soup' unless you serve it properly. (application/xhtml+xml). XHTML makes good soup... :-) ...when it _is_ XHTML. In consequence, the worst thing was finding that I had to have a radical rethink about my approach to

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya
Best thing I learned in 2005: CSS. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Clattco)

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/22/05, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I would like to know if I have made any huge gaffes with this site (http://www.smashingred.com/clientspace/clattco/). On this page: http://www.smashingred.com/clientspace/clattco/renovations/ the last photo is overlapped by the

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread kvnmcwebn
btw George Hey thanks for all your help over the last year. The first time i tried to build a site with ws i got so frustrated I shelved it for 6 months. Now because of this list i am comfortable creating fixed width layouts and can mark up any design i can come up with. whats more I can

Re: [WSG] Mac FF hidden div still shows scrollbars

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/22/05, Thomas Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi listers, We have a div being hidden (visibility:hidden;) and then using javascript to show hide layers (sort of a pop-up but not sorta thing). If we give it a height and apply overflow:scroll; (or auto) it looks and works dandy,

Re: [WSG] Mac FF hidden div still shows scrollbars

2005-12-22 Thread Ben Curtis
On 12/22/05, Thomas Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi listers, We have a div being hidden (visibility:hidden;) and then using javascript to show hide layers (sort of a pop-up but not sorta thing). If we give it a height and apply overflow:scroll; (or auto) it looks and works dandy,

Re: [WSG] Mac FF hidden div still shows scrollbars

2005-12-22 Thread Joshua Street
Maybe use opacity:0 instead? More rules to cater for different browsers, but might work more reliably... maybe...? On 12/23/05, Ben Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/22/05, Thomas Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi listers, We have a div being hidden (visibility:hidden;) and then

[WSG] Vacation messages

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Firminger
Folks, If you are going away and need to set a vacation message, please remember to log into the WSG site and take yourself off the WSG and CMS mailing lists until you return. Otherwise each person that sends mail to the list gets your vacation message and in some cases they go to the list.

Re: [WSG] Mac FF hidden div still shows scrollbars

2005-12-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 23 Dec 2005, at 3:21 am, Thomas Livingston wrote: Hi listers, We have a div being hidden (visibility:hidden;) and then using javascript to show hide layers (sort of a pop-up but not sorta thing). If we give it a height and apply overflow:scroll; (or auto) it looks and works dandy,