[ADMIN: THREAD CAUTION] Re: [WSG] Electronic forms building software

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:53:22 +1100, Jessica Enders wrote: I was wondering what WYSIWYG electronic (web and other) forms building software would you recommend or avoid? I'm interested in experience with Form Assembly, in particular. The sorts of things I'm interested in feedback on include

[WSG] Hero Style Presentation

Hello I remember seeing a few years ago a presentation done (in HTML) about Web Standards. It had a whole load of Super hero / Roy Lichtenstein style graphics. Anyone have a link, I really would appreciate it? Thanks E. ***

Re: [WSG] Hero Style Presentation

On 5 Feb 2008, at 09:43, Web Man Walking wrote: Hello I remember seeing a few years ago a presentation done (in HTML) about Web Standards. It had a whole load of Super hero / Roy Lichtenstein style graphics. Anyone have a link, I really would appreciate it? Is this what you mean?

RE: [WSG] Hero Style Presentation

Hurrah! Thank you. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: 05 February 2008 10:02 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Hero Style Presentation On 5 Feb 2008, at 09:43, Web Man Walking wrote: Hello I remember seeing a few

Re: [WSG] Electronic forms building software

Jessica Enders wrote: Hi all I was wondering what WYSIWYG electronic (web and other) forms building software would you recommend or avoid? I'm interested in experience with Form Assembly, in particular. The sorts of things I'm interested in feedback on include Wufoo, Icebrrg, SurveyMonkey,

RE: [WSG] Electronic forms building software

Peter, Jessica has been designing forms for years and seems (based on my observations) to have a fair handle on web standards/accessibility and form coding without tools. I guess that rather than beginner advice she was after a way to code them using tools in a standards compliant way, but I

[WSG] PHP includes

If I am including a menu using the PHP include command but the actuual menu is an html list does the included file need to have its code including the css style sheet or will it use the style sheet of the page it is included to. Also is their a preference in web standards for using PHP

Re: [WSG] PHP includes

You don't need to add any styles to the include file. Keep in mind the php does its stuff long before any css rules get applied which happens only after the dom is loaded into the user's browser. I cannot speak for SSI as I've never used it once. Always did asp/php includes. Joseph R. B.

Re: [WSG] PHP includes

Quoting Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I am including a menu using the PHP include command but the actuual menu is an html list does the included file need to have its code including the css style sheet or will it use the style sheet of the page it is included to. Any text that's in

Re: [WSG] PHP includes

You can basically think of a PHP include as basically just copying everything from the included file into the file it is being included in. Ken Robinson wrote: Quoting Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I am including a menu using the PHP include command but the actuual menu is an html

Re: [WSG] PHP includes

Also is their a preference in web standards for using PHP includes or something like SSI? SSI stands for server side include which is essentially what a PHP include is. The only difference is the syntax used to call the include. -- Tyssen Design http://www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07)

CLOSED Re: [WSG] PHP includes

Hi This discussion is off topic for the WSG list. If you would like to respond to Michael, please do so off list. The list guidelines are available at the footer of each list email. Thanks James -- cc:core On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:34:22 am Michael Horowitz wrote: If I am including a menu using

[WSG] making a menu bar hug the right

Sorry for the flurry of questions but I've traditionally done my sites with tables and am doing my first completely css site now http://terrorfreeamerica.us/ Just setting up the menu on the left and I'm wondering how to get my menu buttons to hug the left hand side of menu div. Currently its

Re: [WSG] making a menu bar hug the right

On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Michael Horowitz wrote: Sorry for the flurry of questions but I've traditionally done my sites with tables and am doing my first completely css site now http://terrorfreeamerica.us/ Just setting up the menu on the left and I'm wondering how to get my menu

[WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

I've noticed that my site is centered it ie 7.0 but left justified in firefox http://terrorfreeamerica.us/. What are the issues and workarounds to keep them in sync. In this case I would like it centered both ways but I would love to know how to do it either way. Thanks -- Michael Horowitz

Re: [WSG] making a menu bar hug the right

Michael Horowitz wrote: http://terrorfreeamerica.us/ Just setting up the menu on the left and I'm wondering how to get my menu buttons to hug the left hand side of menu div. ul { margin: 0; -- :: add :: padding: 0; - :: add :: list-style: none; } Best, ~dL --

Re: [WSG] making a menu bar hug the right

Good Evening Michael; To your ul rule add no padding and no margin, ie ul { list-style: none; padding: 0 auto; margin: 0 auto; } That should help it out. HTH Regards ~Veine snip On 5 Feb 2008 at 20:51, Michael Horowitz wrote: Sorry for the flurry of questions but I've

Re: [WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

#wrapper { margin: 0 auto; padding: 0; text-align: left; width: 950px; } Cheers Adam Michael Horowitz wrote: I've noticed that my site is centered it ie 7.0 but left justified in firefox http://terrorfreeamerica.us/. What are the issues and workarounds to keep them in sync. In

Re: [WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

In wrapper, change the margin to be: margin: 0 auto; To center block-level elements, you set margin-left: auto and margin-right: auto (margin: 0 auto is a shortcut for that). In IE, at least IE6, it wrongfully would let you use text-align: center to position block level elements. Not sure

Re: [WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

Hello again Michael; Same story different instance, in this case the wrapper needs to have them, ie. #wrapper { text-align: left; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 auto; width: 950px; } HTH ~Veine snip On 5 Feb 2008 at 21:10, Michael Horowitz wrote: I've noticed that my site is centered

Re: [WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

Try #wrapper { margin: 0px auto; } On Feb 6, 2008 1:10 PM, Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that my site is centered it ie 7.0 but left justified in firefox http://terrorfreeamerica.us/. What are the issues and workarounds to keep them in sync. In this case I would

[WSG] Styling forms

I've been looking at styling forms and I'm seeing some people mark them up as ordered lists and other using paragraphs. What are the arguments for the different markup types. -- Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

good question!! I personally used to use lists then i realised that paragraphs actually use these code (both html and css) and is easier to stylise! I wrote some of my thoughts hear a week or so ago! http://germworks.net/blog/2008/01/23/lists-p-whats-best-for-forms/ On Feb 6, 2008 12:38 PM,

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

Forms should be marked up as you would anything else; If you are placing a paragraph in the form you should use a p. If you are placing a list inside the form you should use a ul/ol, if you are placing headings inside the form you should use h1-h6 etc. etc. The inputs should be arranged using

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

It kind of depends on the form itself. Definition lists and unordered lists also are used a lot. Usually, I would say unordered or definition lists are the most appropriate. If the questions were numbered, I could see using ordered lists. Paragraphs are kind of the lazy way. You can also use

RE: [WSG] Styling forms

There may be specific cases where it would be right to mark up a form as a list, although I can't think of one. As a general rule it would be wrong. The argument against marking up a form as a list is that a form is not a list. A form is one or more groups of form controls, and the fieldset

RE: [WSG] Styling forms

Hi Germ17,I have seen your example presented in GERMWORKS.NETFYI, your approach is perfect to my knowledge, but the INPUT element should not wrapped by any LABEL element. It's not compliant/accessible...I request you to modify this example according to standards, if you believe the same.

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

Have a look at this article on A List Apart: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/prettyaccessibleforms If you haven't been too that site before then have a snoop around. They got lots of really good articles. - Original Message - From: Christian Snodgrass [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

When the LABEL element wraps around INPUT you do not need the FOR attribute.The hierarchy provides the connection between them. However, when the LABEL does not wrap around the INPUT, the FOR attribute is required for useragent to know the elements are related. - Original Message -