Re: [WSG] IE8 news - stats

2008-03-09 Thread Lea de Groot
Well, if you'd like some stats from a .au site with very much non-technical, typically Australian-sourced traffic: 1. Internet Explorer / Windows 44,549 80.32% 1. 7.0 23,965 53.77% 2. 6.0 20,507 46.01% 3. 5.5

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:11:53 -0800, tee wrote: Anybody knows about this? The robots text is good for search robots, but I read from somewhere, that robots text no longer is needed when Google Sitemap is implemented for the site. For Google bots, there are some elements of Google Sitemaps

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction

2008-03-09 Thread Mark Harris
tee wrote: On Mar 7, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Hi, Search robots are essentially blind users. Anybody knows about this? I think what Kevin meant is that the googlebot takes no notice of graphical navigation or information, much as a blind user is unable to see it. The

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction

2008-03-09 Thread Dejan Kozina
I believe you got it somewhat wrong. The basic purpose of a robots.txt file is to tell a search engine what not to index - and you can issue different instructions to each robot separately. It does not tell the robots which pages to index, except for the basic tenet that anything not

RE: [WSG] IE8 news - stats

2008-03-09 Thread John Hancock
Consider that a fairly significant proportion of IE6 users cannot upgrade as they're using illegal copies of Windows XP. One of my clients did a fairly large study (anonymous) where 18% of 10,000 users were using cracked copies of Windows - I'm just wondering how much that'd sway the stats. For

RE: [WSG] IE8 news - stats

2008-03-09 Thread Andrew Boyd
John, most of the IE6 users I know are not thieves, they are clients that use IE6 as part of their SOE. One organisation alone has several thousand IE6 users. They do not choose their browser, nor their O/S. Cheers, Andrew Andrew Boyd Consultant SMS Management Technology M 0413 048 542 T

Re: [WSG] IE8 news - stats

2008-03-09 Thread Ben Dodson
As mentioned previously, people with illegal copies of XP can now upgrade to IE7 - http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/10/04/internet-explorer-7-update.aspx Ben -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://bendodson.com/ On 09/03/2008, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, most of the IE6

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I didn't know robots text was important for accessibility, however I learned from the accessites team that it is. Tee, The reasons we (Accessites) look for a robots.txt file is because it keeps honest bots from wasting their time and your bandwidth indexing directories/files you don't want

RE: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread John Hancock
Hi Michael, That seems incredibly arbitrary when a robots.txt is purely optional - especially as the default spider behavior is to index all unless told otherwise. So you're penalizing people by having your robot behave in the opposite manner? And regarding PICS labels, most people don't know how

Re: [WSG] IE8 news

2008-03-09 Thread Michael Horowitz
Your problem is government doesn't care about what works for users. I'm suprised it works on Firefox and IE 6 but not 7 as I thought 7 was more not less standards compliant. But most businesses that actually make money from the web will have to go with the market and work with the latest

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
That seems incredibly arbitrary when a robots.txt is purely optional - especially as the default spider behavior is to index all unless told otherwise. So you're penalizing people by having your robot behave in the opposite manner? And regarding PICS labels, most people don't know how to set them

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Dejan Kozina
Nice to hear again about PICS. I use to label all my websites, but I've ofter wondered if I'm the last one using this (and P3P...). djn Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: That seems incredibly arbitrary when a robots.txt is purely optional - especially as the default spider behavior is to index

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Hayden's Harness Attachment
Okay then. What is an example of an accessible robots.txt file? Are you also talking about the site map link you see on large web sites? Angus MacKinnon Infoforce Services http:ééwww.infoforce-services.com It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible. George Washington

[WSG] RE: Sitemap and accessibility

2008-03-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
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RE: [WSG] Firefox developer toolbar

2008-03-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Does the web developer toolbar support Firefox 3.0 beta 3? Here's a beta for the beta: http://jefim.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/webdeveloper-add-on-for-firefox-3- beta-2/ Cheers, Jens Korff The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential.

Re: [WSG] RE: Sitemap and accessibility

2008-03-09 Thread dwain
It is my understanding, though, that an XML site map can help indexing but being that I've never used one or looked into it much, I can neither confirm or deny this. google will review and index pages in a matter of hours when you submit an xml site map. you put it in your site's root folder

Re: [WSG] RE: Sitemap and accessibility

2008-03-09 Thread James Pickering
There are actually two types or flavors of Site Maps. The first is the type that is loaded up to your Web server and that is used by Search Engines to spider your pages thereby playing a significant role in Page rankings. These Site Maps are constructed and formatted according to