Hi folks,
My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments,
using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the CMS, just because
we can.
We have been persuaded (read: bullied) to redesign our header to
exactly match that of the parent organisation. I have no problem with
that
Hi Lib,
this may be off topic and more a usability question. however I see relatedness
in how to structure them semantically and to benifit those that may wish to use
them.
I find that they can be a nice to have to assist users, however if you have to
tab through these, they become extra
Hi lib,
The organization that I am part of uses breadcrumbs, however they're used to
display where the user has been and one link to indicate the top level.
I think in terms of usability they can help a user associate themselves with
your structure if they're really searching for something.
libwebdev wrote:
My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments,
using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the CMS, just because
we can.
We have been persuaded (read: bullied) to redesign our header to
exactly match that of the parent organisation. I have no problem
Lib,
Breadcrumbs fall into that category of IA component that hurts no-one, and
helps some people some of the time, which generally makes them worthwhile.
However, breadcrumbs should serve a specific purpose, that being: to
represent the content pathway the user followed to reach their current
Rahul Gonsalves skrev:
#foo {
border: 1px solid fuscia;
-moz-border-radius: 0.5em;
-webkit-border-radius: 0.5em;
border-radius: 0.5em;
}
This will ensure that browsers like IE6/IE7 only see the first line
(border...) and draw a straight box around #foo. Slightly smarter
browsers like
Damn, this is refreshing to hear for a change! Enough said.
Ted
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:13 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure
I agree with most of the comments in response to this query but
thought I would clarify one part of what Steve said, namely that:
breadcrumbs ... represent the content pathway the user followed to
reach their current page.
I misread this sentence initially and so others may too. I thought
Hi
As a PHP developer I expect myself and fellow programmers to use PHPDoc
for every single file/class/function/etc they will ever write. It has
become non-negotiable.
Most programming languages have their own implementation of this now,
all in honor of JavaDoc, who invented the system.
Ihttp://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/pattern.php?pattern=breadcrumbs
2008/6/6 libwebdev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi folks,
My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments,
using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the CMS, just because
we can.
We have been persuaded
I agree with Steve Baty
Breadcrumbs hurt no one and help more than a few. I have been spending a lot
of time recently with our users, talking menu systems, navigation,
breadcrumbs trails and expectations.
If Parent Org Clinical Services Library Current page
is a list of links
and you can
Maybe i am being a little bit picky with this.
I have a suckerfish dropdown, as i feel it is the best approach for
cross-browser (but not A grade) dropdowns. The website i am working on is a
youth centre's. The target audience is the community, which can be young or
very old. The very old may be
I am very excited about the audio and video elements in HTML 5. I have
been playing with them for a while. Only browser that seems to support it
... sort of ... is Safari (im using an iMac).
Just means i will have to dedicate a few months of solid learning when HTML
5 and CSS 3 is actually
Thank you Jessica. Your clarification is correct :)
2008/6/6 Jessica Enders [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I agree with most of the comments in response to this query but thought I
would clarify one part of what Steve said, namely that: breadcrumbs ...
represent the content pathway the user followed to
No i havn't herd of prog. enhancement.
See you do learn something new everyday.
Thanks.
On 6/6/08, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
James,
Have you heard of progressive enhancement?
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Enhancement
I would link all the 'nav' items to root
James,
Have you heard of progressive enhancement?
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Enhancement
I would link all the 'nav' items to root pages that include the sub
links so if JS is unavailable a usable experience is provided for all,
then if JS is available, enhance the experience by
It sounds like a lot of work for something that you are purely guessing?
As your audience is already part of the community that you're doing the website
for, it should be easy to find out a typical setup. Many old people I know
aren't using IE5 - either they aren't using anything or they
This is not a IE5 question, it is whether the navigation element
should depend on Javascript.
Navigation should not rely on javascript to display.
Therefore if javascript is off, any descended subnav should display
in it's expanded state.
Plenty of examples of this all over the net o no
Joe said:
Therefore if javascript is off, any descended subnav should display in it's
expanded state.
I agree with this pattern for some scenerios, for example with tabbed
panels, but (depending on the design) surely with drop down navigation
it would cause usability issues with the expanded
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James Jeffery
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:49 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Suckerfish and IE 5 with no Javascript
Maybe i am being a little bit picky with this.
I have a suckerfish dropdown, as i feel it is the
With the pure CSS version, and using Javascript to take care of IE 5, you
can ensure it will work with browsers with JS disabled. Thats why i chose to
use the Suckerfish style dropdowns. Also you can add some extra behvaiour
ontop of the pure CSS menu's.
I think maybe the best solution would be
Here is an example of the NEW idea:
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3992/standard01yo8.png
This has got me thinking though. If there is going to be a sub navigation
part on every page is there really any need for the dropdown?
By adding the dropdown the only benefit the user will get is that
The same image but with the content and withut the dropdown showing:
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=standard01qi5.png
I think it might work without the dropdown. I will have to speak to the
youth centre manager on Wednesday.
James
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM, James Jeffery
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James Jeffery
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:08 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Suckerfish and IE 5 with no Javascript
With the pure CSS version, and using Javascript to take care of IE 5, you
can ensure it
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