Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-27 Thread cat soul
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote: Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-27 Thread cat soul
I would suggest that cater to isn't the most positive terminology to use with respect to those with disabilities. it implies some sort of not-really-necessary bending over backwards and engaging in some huge hassle and great imposition. if you think of doing business as offering a product

[WSG] images against color backgrounds

2010-12-08 Thread cat soul
I hope I'm not bending/breaking the purpose of the list but wanted opinions on best practices for preparing images for use on web pages where there are color backgrounds, and the image must have some of that background color in them. Example: you want to place an image with a drop shadow,

[WSG] alt text on email graphic

2010-11-29 Thread cat soul
The technique of using a graphic to communicate an email address in order to foil spiders or harvesters, like this: bob at domain dot com seems pretty clever. Yet, when I think about the alt text for that image, I'm wondering if that alt text could be exploited by spiders... would it be

Re: [WSG] alt text on email graphic

2010-11-29 Thread cat soul
On Nov 29, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Ted Drake wrote: If a spider could read the alt attribute, don't you think they could read the href attribute? Alt=j...@smith.com or href=mailto:j...@smith.com; It doesn't matter where you put the valid email address, the spiders will find it. However, messing

Re: [WSG] alt text on email graphic

2010-11-29 Thread cat soul
On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Grant Bailey wrote: This article might also help: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/spam/ wow... wonder why the author didn't suggest the form method? cs *** List Guidelines:

[WSG] advice on background images?

2010-11-26 Thread cat soul
Any tips on how to minimize or eliminate how obvious it is where the tiles meet when you have the background image repeat? thanks cs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] advice on background images?

2010-11-26 Thread cat soul
Hi, Jon; Thanks for the offer of more info on this, and sorry for bending (breaking?) the main purpose of WSG! Any info you can offer on this subject would be a huge help! cs On Nov 26, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Jon @ The PixelForge wrote: Again, I'm not sure if this deserves place in WSG, but

Re: [WSG] Fixed-position menus?

2010-11-24 Thread cat soul
On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: How key is IE 6, and are people simply not going with this kind of fixed menu? You can use the following for IE6, but be aware that CSS expressions are evil! #elementToBeFixed { position:fixed; } * html { background:

[WSG] Fixed-position menus?

2010-11-23 Thread cat soul
Here is a link illustrating what I mean: http://thinkplan.org/menupersist.jpg What are peoples' thoughts on this kind of menu? I'm told that IE 6 doesn't support this kind of menu...IIRC, it involves position: fixed; How key is IE 6, and are people simply not going with this kind of

[WSG] best formatting for alt text

2010-11-12 Thread cat soul
Hello; I am assuming that alt text will be heard and not read. If this is so, it need only be there and could be any size, correct? How do people handle alt? format it with h6 and call it good? thanks for any advice! cs ***

Re: [WSG] best formatting for alt text

2010-11-12 Thread cat soul
On Nov 12, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Oliver Boermans wrote: Alt text does become visible when the image has yet to, or has failed, to load. In which case it is most certainly worthy of consideration. I believe (in most browsers?) this text will inherit any font attributes assigned to the IMG tag or

Re: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?

2010-11-11 Thread cat soul
On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Micky Hulse wrote: I just finished reading HTML5 for web designers, and I thought it was a pretty good introduction to HTML5. http://books.alistapart.com/products/html5-for-web-designers An easy read. Very short book. Cheers, Micky I see that one of the choices

Re: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?

2010-11-11 Thread cat soul
On Nov 11, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Micky Hulse wrote: Howdy! On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:23 AM, cat soul cats...@thinkplan.org wrote: I see that one of the choices is the eBook form...can that be read on a Mac? Good question! Looks like the ebook includes PDF, ePub, and mobi formats. I am

[WSG] XHTML or HTML?

2010-11-10 Thread cat soul
Any thoughts on which we ought to be using, and what information ought to be up at top of an HTML page, along with !DOCTYPE, etc? Thank you, cs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?

2010-11-10 Thread cat soul
On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Ted Drake wrote: Thierry's right. It's time to start making those baby steps into HTML5. But you'll also need to add your charset and lang definition !doctype html html lang=en head meta charset=UTF-8 Great! Most everyone else is saying HTML5 is 10

Re: [WSG] A simple IE and JS detection method?

2010-10-29 Thread cat soul
why did I get this set of 5 replies to this thread 12 times? did any body else get it 12 times, too? cs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

[WSG] Where are we with Frames?

2010-10-25 Thread cat soul
How do people here feel about frames? cs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
, cat soul wrote: Any thoughts on using CSS hover properties to show larger images? The scenario I'm envisioning is one where you'd have small thumbnails of samples, and hovering the mouse over them would invoke a hover state in which a larger version of that same image would appear...Larger

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
will there be/can there be a new command/property which can be read by each device the way it needs to be? could there be soon a touch command so that you could write the code like: hover, do this. If no hover, then touch, do this. If no touch, then __ and do this ? On Oct 20,

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
and Elegant Web Design Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 10/20/10 10:44 AM, cat soul wrote: Yes, and while we're on the topic of things that won't work on phones and iPadsis there anything else we need to know about that also won't play nice with those

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
Help me if I mis-interpret the writer's fine article, but this pertains to Javascript rollovers, too. The end user doesn't know and doesn't care whether that thing popping up was a CSS Hover, or a Javascript rollover. S/he only knows that, by innocently mousing around, something popped up

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
-- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 10/20/10 1:19 PM, cat soul wrote: I thank you for that link, David. The picture I am developing now is this: HTML and CSS should be used strictly

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
I agree thoroughly, Hassan. Yet as this is a best-practices discussion and group, and since we've been hearing that these things A) don't always work and B) aren't always well-received by end users, we're left with a need. And that need is to know: out of the universe of what we can do,

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
Heh! That is pretty funny! However, clients may have the need to ensure a universal experience. One example of this is in their brand values, which may call for a certain look and feel. If a person experiences one thing on their iPad and another experiences something different on their HP

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
tee...you are quite right to point that out..every medium has its booby traps and difficulties..I've spend my share of time wrangling with recalcitrant files myself. cs On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, tee wrote: Fixing PostScript error is like knowing browser quirks

[WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-19 Thread cat soul
Any thoughts on using CSS hover properties to show larger images? The scenario I'm envisioning is one where you'd have small thumbnails of samples, and hovering the mouse over them would invoke a hover state in which a larger version of that same image would appear...Larger meaning 400x600

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread cat soul
On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: Basically image maps can be used, but they aren't usually a good idea. A better method would be to split it up into separate images and smash them together to look like one map. This lets you add alt tags and what-not to make it

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread cat soul
On Oct 14, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: I'm not saying image maps should never be used... I'm saying that you should keep in mind alternatives because image maps are frequently abuse That is completely clear and understandable. And, I would as (as I don't know) are image

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread cat soul
On Sep 29, 2010, at 1:59 AM, Sam Sherlock wrote: MS is on board but for vista windows 7 users only Quite true. All for-profit companies are in things for themselves. No news flash there. But if I could tease out the original purpose of my question once more, it'd be to say that Flash

[WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-28 Thread cat soul
I hope that this is within the scope of this list... Some months back, you may have read Steve Jobs saying that Flash could easily be replaced by a combo of CSS and h264, or something very similar. My CSS skills don't empower me to see how this could be..could somebody shine a light on

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-28 Thread cat soul
On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Sam Sherlock wrote: Kroc Camen video for everybody http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody I think Steve Jobs is thinking about everyone using Safari browser (or another modern browser that support h.264 not ff3.6 but ff4 will maybe, chrome does) but

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-28 Thread cat soul
years ago. cs On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Sam Sherlock wrote: transitions with css here http://timvandamme.com/ some icons use transition with css with in .vcard in firefox the icons just use hover active - S On 29 September 2010 01:12, cat soul cats...@thinkplan.org wrote: On Sep