Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-12-01 Thread Keryx Web
Geoff Pack skrev: Since they're Roman numerals, shouldn't there be a lang=la in there somewhere? Roman numerals may be used in more languages than latin. They are simply put just another way to write a number. Lars Gunther Who BTW has read Latin...

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-12-01 Thread Kepler Gelotte
. span num=Boolean10011/span). Maybe this is too much classification being added to HTML though. Regards, Kepler -Original Message- From: Keryx Web [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:27 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR

[WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Tate Johnson
Greetings, I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered semantically appropriate to make use of the abbr tag? abbr

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Nov 29, 2007 3:48 PM, Tate Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread E Michael Brandt
How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia --

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Lauke
Matthew Pennell It's not an abbreviated form of the full date by any stretch of the imagination. Tell that to the microformats crowd - they've practically stretched the idea of abbreviation to anything, just so they can fit their machine readable data into the page... Why not just use a

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Tate, I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered semantically appropriate to make use of the abbr tag? Or

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Lauke
E Michael Brandt How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ? I think this may stretch the meaning of DFN. A defining instance is the occurrence of the term where the term is defined. It does not enclose the actual definition. It also should only occur once per page for each defined term. P

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Frank Palinkas
Designer  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Lauke Sent: Thursday, 29 November, 2007 18:36 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals Matthew Pennell It's

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Tate, I came across this article: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hattrick Which recommends using the dfn tag: Roman numerals Another good application for this trick is the Roman numeral. We want to make sure our Roman numerals are accessible to users who are unfamiliar or have

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
It's not an abbreviated form of the full date by any stretch of the imagination. Tell that to the microformats crowd - they've practically stretched the idea of abbreviation to anything, just so they can fit their machine readable data into the page... Exactly, and this is the kind

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread E Michael Brandt
I agree. However it does have a slightly better semantic meaning than abbr, since we are really translating from one language to another here, not expanding an abbreviation, and surely more meaning than span. Patrick Lauke wrote: E Michael Brandt How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ?

Accessibility issues of microformats (was Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals)

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I agree with this hCalendar issue [2]: The use of abbr for dates is incorrect. August 5th, 2004 is not the abbreviation of 2004-09-05. In fact, the opposite is closer to the truth. But it was rejected as false statement. It says See this article for an explanation of

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Tate Johnson
On 30/11/2007, at 3:29 AM, Kepler Gelotte wrote: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hattrick Which recommends using the dfn tag: Roman numerals Another good application for this trick is the Roman numeral. We want to make sure our Roman numerals are accessible to users who are unfamiliar

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Geoff Pack
Since they're Roman numerals, shouldn't there be a lang=la in there somewhere? Geoff. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: