Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-19 Thread David Dixon
The problem is though, that these browser never actually go, they simply evolve a little which doesn't always make the hack redundant, just altered slightly. Therefore, for me, having the hacked styles alongside the valid css styles makes things infinitely easier to see what is actually

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-19 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 19 May 2007, at 05:05:14, Thierry Koblentz wrote: On Behalf Of Jermayn Parker This is what I find very useful and explained very simply: http://www.solidstategroup.com/page/1592 FWIW, I'd question #6 and #7 And I'd question 4, as it creates accessibility problems for users who

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-19 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/19/07, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 May 2007, at 05:05:14, Thierry Koblentz wrote: On Behalf Of Jermayn Parker This is what I find very useful and explained very simply: http://www.solidstategroup.com/page/1592 FWIW, I'd question #6 and #7 And I'd question 4, as

[WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, I am trying to find hacks for IE7 and I can't, could someone please point me in the right direction? I would like the following: - a hack to target IE7 only - a hack to target all versions of IE, including IE7 Anyone got any ideas? I don't want to create conditional comments as this is

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Scott Swabey
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I am trying to find hacks for IE7 and I can't, could someone please point me in the right direction? I would like the following: - a hack to target IE7 only - a hack to target all versions of IE, including IE7 To target IE7 only you can try something like: /*

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 5/18/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find hacks for IE7 and I can't, could someone please point me in the right direction? I would like the following: #mydiv { background: red; /* all browsers */ *background: green; /* all IE */ _background: blue; /* IE6 and below

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Stephen Kelly
I find this invaluable, http://www.webdevout.net/css-hacks On 18/05/07, Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/18/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find hacks for IE7 and I can't, could someone please point me in the right direction? I would like the

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Collins
Nice one, thanks for your help. I knew there was an answer! The only problem is validation I guess, anyone know of a hack that validates? Cheers On 18/05/07, Stephen Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this invaluable, http://www.webdevout.net/css-hacks On 18/05/07, Matthew Pennell

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Collins
Stuart, How can it be called invalid coding if it does validate? I find using conditional comments gives an excuse to be lazy and just write a whole new bunch of styles for IE that could have been fixed in the original stylesheet with a bit of playing around. When working on sites built by other

RE: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Patrick Lauke
Stuart Foulstone If you want to do hacks then you shouldn't pretend to do valid coding. And broken browsers shouldn't pretend to follow the spec then...until that day, a small hack or workaround, if done cleanly, is perfectly acceptable. P Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, If you want to do hacks then you shouldn't pretend to do valid coding. Stuart On Fri, May 18, 2007 2:05 pm, Paul Collins wrote: Nice one, thanks for your help. I knew there was an answer! The only problem is validation I guess, anyone know of a hack that validates? Cheers On

RE: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Paul Collins conditional comments gives an excuse to be lazy and just write a whole new bunch of styles for IE that could have been fixed in the original stylesheet with a bit of playing around. When working on sites built Do you mean that kind of playing around? div.content {

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks Theiry, I haven't seen the voice family one for quite some time :) It is all down to personal preference of course. I have found it easier to have the hack directly after the style I am trying to hack for in the code; that way I don't have to search anywhere for it to figure out what's

RE: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thanks Theiry, I haven't seen the voice family one for quite some time :) ;-) IMO: If you take your time you shouldn't need too many hacks anyway, maybe a box model or two and a peekaboo bug here and there, which should really only require a \ or a * html, not too complex. But again, that

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Jermayn Parker
This is what I find very useful and explained very simply: http://www.solidstategroup.com/page/1592 On 5/18/07, Stephen Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this invaluable, http://www.webdevout.net/css-hacks On 18/05/07, Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/18/07, Paul

RE: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

2007-05-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Jermayn Parker This is what I find very useful and explained very simply: http://www.solidstategroup.com/page/1592 FWIW, I'd question #6 and #7 --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: