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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke
In the real world where people are imperfect, you can't have
a standard with just a spec-you must have a super-strict
reference implementation, and everybody has to test against
the reference implementation.
Spolsky:
Enough ugly hacks. 8 billion existing web pages be damned.
If I got this right, only around 10 % of web pages are rendered in
standards mode http://triin.net/2006/06/12/HTML, and will be affected
by the changed behaviour in IE 8. Still a lot of pages, of course.
Pages done long
Far too long, and his point is buried somewhere...
It is long, but I like the headphone analogy that (I think) makes it
easier to understand the 'economics' of the situation. (Does it count
as economics when the products are free?)
I was very surprised by the IE teams decision to make the new
Lea de Groot wrote:
Joel Spolsky has published an ... interesting article
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html
Ok, I actually sat down and read Joel's convoluted prose...
DOCTYPE is a myth.
A mortal web designer who attaches a DOCTYPE tag to their web page
saying, “this is
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Reference implementation for content marked up in HTML is the W3C
validator...again, confused about CSS/DOM?
Fair point, but his audience is general technical rather than
(knowledgeable) web developers. If you put his post in context of
general programming (pre and
Joel Spolsky has published an ... interesting article
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html
I wonder if Microsoft considered the approach of IE 7 is the last
version of IE. Our new product will be $NEW_PRODUCT_NAME[1]. All old
hacks for IE are irrelevent - we're starting afresh,
Lea de Groot wrote:
Joel Spolsky has published an ... interesting article
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html
I think it's a great article. And one the nails why this has created so
much heat. Among many killer quotes, this to end things:
You see? No right answer.
As usual,
Lea de Groot wrote:
Joel Spolsky has published an ... interesting article
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html
Far too long, and his point is buried somewhere...
IE8b1 is a very rough beta...heck, I'd call it an alpha. They have
serious rendering issues so far, but I doubt
Lea de Groot wrote:
Joel Spolsky has published an ... interesting article
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html
Microsoft failed to follow the evolutionary trail and keep up with
common standards - to the degree that such exists, and now they try to
catch up without causing a
