Re: [WSG] XHTML again

2006-01-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 7 Jan 2006, at 3:35 pm, Lynne Pope wrote: On 1/7/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not as easy to hide proprietary and 'not-yet-recommended' CSS from the validator, as it is with all the garbage often needed to make IE/win behave. OTOH: hiding something in a

Re: [WSG] XHTML again

2006-01-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lynne Pope wrote: The validators themselves tell you that they have limitations. A page can validate according to the W3C online service but, in fact, not be valid. I think Philippe covered the validity-points pretty well. It all comes down to how closely any developer wishes to adhere to

[WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread designer
Leslie Riggs wrote: What's a person to do? When is it appropriate to use one of the XHTML DTDs and when to use HTML 4.01, and what about those XHTML Transitional DTDs? I guess I'm looking for a bit of a summarization clarification of this concept. Leslie Riggs The approach I use (I'm

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread Lynne Pope
I didn't want my first contribution to the group to be a comment on another person's website, but as you said you are learning Bob I thought you might find this helpful. The problem with browser sniffing is that you have to be very careful to serve the right information. At the moment, your site

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)
- Messaggio originale - Da: Lynne In IE, your site shows meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8. It needs to be sent with the text/html mime type. A little tweak to your php code and you will have it nailed ;) Roberto

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread designer
Hi Roberto, When I 'view source' in FF, I get the following: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8' ? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN' 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd' html xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml' xml:lang='en' If I look in IE, I get

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)
- Messaggio originale - Da: designer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Roberto, When I 'view source' in FF, I get the following: [cut] Are you getting something different? Roberto: You miss the css stylesheets as xml. Try this page for see the difference in the

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)
- Messaggio originale - Da: Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: 06/01/06 14.26.37 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgwsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) wrote: Roberto: You miss the css stylesheets as xml. Try this page for see the difference in the source code: http://www.fruibile.it What's the point of defining the stylesheet both with the xml-stylesheet instruction AND the (valid, and clearly defined in

Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply]

2006-01-06 Thread Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)
- Messaggio originale - Da: Patrick H. Lauke[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: 06/01/06 16.54.27 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgwsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] XHTML again - was:[Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply] Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG

Re: [WSG] XHTML again

2006-01-06 Thread designer
Hi Lynne, Thanks for your comments. Unless I'm very much mistaken, it 'is' sent as text/html - that's the point. OK, it does say that it is application/xhtml+xml in the meta tag, but that is just ignored when it's sent with the correct mime type. Also, try as I might, I can't get it to be

Re: [WSG] XHTML again

2006-01-06 Thread Lynne Pope
Hi Bob,Your splash page validates in xhtml, but the rest of your site has css errors: Errors URI : http://www.rhh.myzen.co.uk/rhh/gam/altgam/altgam.cssLine: 6 Context : html Property text-justify doesn't exist : newspaper Line: 62 Context : #container Property text-justify doesn't exist :

Re: [WSG] XHTML again

2006-01-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
designer wrote: If I'm missing something here, perhaps one of our learned colleagues will tell me? Bob, I don't think you are missing anything !important so far :-) Lynne Pope wrote: Your splash page validates in xhtml, but the rest of your site has css errors: Errors URI :

Re: [WSG] XHTML again

2006-01-06 Thread Lynne Pope
On 1/7/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not as easy to hide proprietary and 'not-yet-recommended' CSS from the validator, as it is with all the garbage often needed to make IE/win behave. OTOH: hiding something in a conditional comment (or in a 'non-existent stylesheet',