Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-26 Thread Ben Curtis
On May 25, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Andrew Krespanis wrote: On 5/24/05, Ben Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Canada In The Game, Inc. Customer Service 135 West Beaver Creek Road Box #604 Richmond Hill ON L4B 1C0 I think that one would hav

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-26 Thread Rowan Lewis
I've one question, whats wrong with a small header and a paragraph of formatted text? On 5/26/05, Patrick Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Prabhath Sirisena > > > Anyways, a dialogue is definitely not a place for a definition list. > > By the name "definition" itself things should be clear. P

RE: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Prabhath Sirisena > Anyways, a dialogue is definitely not a place for a definition list. > By the name "definition" itself things should be clear. Perhaps W3C > should come up with a new element for such uses (or the developer can > create is own xHTML module, but, like, who cares?). Until we c

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-26 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
> "Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up dialogues, > with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing his or her words." > > 'Juliet equals Romeo, oh Romeo...' nope > That example has been cited often for an instance where W3C got it wrong. or not. Anyways, a dialogue

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Andrew Krespanis wrote: The method I use to decide on the appropriate use of is to say 'equals' in between the and each . being ultra picky, then, even what the W3C suggest at the end of http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 is wrong "Another application of DL, for example,

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-25 Thread John Allsopp
Andrew and all sorry about jeopardy quoting. I'm leaving the below in for context This is the ideal situation for a "microformat", an emerging and exciting way of adding richer semantics to HTML within the existing standard http://developers.technorati.com/wiki/MicroFormats The hCard (bas

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-25 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On 5/24/05, Ben Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Canada > In The Game, Inc. > Customer Service > 135 West Beaver Creek Road Box #604 > Richmond Hill > ON > L4B 1C0 > I think that one would have to qualify as improper use of a . The

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread Ben Curtis
On May 23, 2005, at 2:13 AM, Ben Ward wrote: I might also be inclined to put semantic class names on each of those addresses (such as "street-address", "telephone", "fax". In the future, this would allow you to use CSS to generate the "Tel" and "Fax" prefixes for you, or insert an appropriate i

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:30:53 +0100, Ben Ward wrote: > Lea - I think the problematic part of the element as > described in Geoff's link is the part reading "authorship for the > current document". Yes, *after* I posted (typical) I went and had a further look around. The HTML4 specs are more restri

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread Ben Ward
Apologies - I hit send too soon and the example was wrong. I meant that you could end up with this: CAMELFORD OFFICE: 20 Market Place Camelford Cornwall PL32 9PD TEL 01840 212938 FAX 01840 213596 I might also be inclined to p

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread Ben Ward
Nothing 'wrong' with that I don't think. I think that the street address should probably only be contained within a single , though (since it is a single entity). Lines could be broken with as appropraite. I think it would then be appropraite to wrap the inner text of each with an too, so you h

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread designer
So, is this example 'wrong' ? CAMELFORD OFFICE: 20 Market Place Camelford Cornwall PL32 9PD TEL 01840 212938 FAX 01840 213596 It's what I generally use for the contact address of whatever business site I'm pro

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering wrote: The first is correct, but should only be used when referencing the author of a document. Arguably, though, if these are the contact details of the company whose site you're on, then it *is* correct (as they would, in the wider sense, be the au

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Geoff Deering
Lea de Groot wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005 06:48:55 +1000, Geoff Deering wrote: The first is correct, but should only be used when referencing the author of a document. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_5.html#SEC5.5.3 It's not used for

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Geoff Deering wrote: The first is correct, but should only be used when referencing the author of a document. Arguably, though, if these are the contact details of the company whose site you're on, then it *is* correct (as they would, in the wider sense, be the authors of their site - and n

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Ben Ward
Lea - I think the problematic part of the element as described in Geoff's link is the part reading "authorship for the current document". Yes, wrapping a street address is correct. However, it specifies that the address must be related directly to the document (e.g. the author's or owner organisat

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 23 May 2005 06:48:55 +1000, Geoff Deering wrote: > The first is correct, but should only be used when > referencing the author of a document. > > http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html > http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_5.html#SEC5.5.3 > > It's not used for general cont

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Geoff Deering
Bruce Gilbert wrote: for an address, which way is best 1st line 2nd line 3rd line or 1st line 2nd line 3rd line TIA! The first is correct, but should only be used when referencing the author of a document. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Ben Ward
I would go for the first one, since in this I think the is given semantic value as a separator (even though, technically the element has zero semantic value). The first set of markup would by default display a nice, multi-line formatted address in all browsers and could be formatted into a comma-s

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Juergen Auer
On 22 May 2005 at 15:57, Bruce Gilbert wrote: > for an address, which way is best > > > 1st line > 2nd line > 3rd line > > > or > > > 1st line > 2nd line > 3rd line > Hello Bruce, I do actually not know the DTD, but the second version declares three adresses. So the first version should

[WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Bruce Gilbert
for an address, which way is best 1st line 2nd line 3rd line or 1st line 2nd line 3rd line TIA! -- ::Bruce:: ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints o