RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-05-02 Thread Peters Micheal A Contr GSI/SCBN
After reading all the reply's that have happened in the past 2 days, the first thing that came to mind was Oh God, what have I started with this question? :-) I was looking at the SVG stuff at the W3.org site. And yes, my mind was blown away. It's definitly not something that I can pick up and

RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-05-02 Thread Peters Micheal A Contr GSI/SCBN
Sorry about the duplicate posts. We've been having some strange e-mail issues the last day or 2 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-29 Thread Gary Menzel
I still think that SVG is worth investigating though will be a steep learning curve. While I have not had time yet to do anything with SVG I have played around with it's Mutant Cousin (VML - Microsoft IE only). I have built some core objects in Javascript that give me a CANVAS and an OBJECT.

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-29 Thread Geoff Bowers
Miles Tillinger wrote: How well does the solution degrade for older browser and screen readers? I'm trying to come up with a topic mapping solution that degrades nicely. It's to replace an existing Flash-based topic structure, however solutions seem to be just as inaccessible as Flash anyway?

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-29 Thread Geoff Bowers
Peter Firminger wrote: I still think that SVG is worth investigating though will be a steep learning curve. This one is pretty impressive, especially the relationships. http://www.w3.org/2003/02/W3COrg.svg SVG is just too damn hard too. There are two simple realities with the state of SVG today:

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-29 Thread James Ellis
Geoff Given that, from what I've seen of SVG, it's markup based - so I'm assuming that one could apply some XSLT to it and create a plain text version of it for those who can't navigate a SWF. The same thing could be done with Flash if you were to pull the data from an external data source -

RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-29 Thread Miles Tillinger
that it's as inaccessible as flash anyway. Just thinking about it makes my brain hurt... Mt. -Original Message- From: Geoff Bowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Org Charts Miles Tillinger wrote: How well does

RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Geoff, I still think that SVG is worth investigating though will be a steep learning curve. This one is pretty impressive, especially the relationships. http://www.w3.org/2003/02/W3COrg.svg P Deb, That looks pretty cool. Is it dynamically or manually built? We've been working on

RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-27 Thread Williams Debbie
Title: RE: [WSG] Org Charts I bodgied up the html org chart at http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/corporate/textorgchart.htm to replace a largish gif. It's tabled, but might help you visualise a CSS positioned list version. D Williams -Original Message- From: Peters Micheal A Contr GSI

RE: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-23 Thread Peter Firminger
Great question! I must admit to copping out to a gif on the rare occasions we have had to do this but SVG may be an option. Does anyone know if the SVG plug-ins are pre-installed with browsers (IE in particular) now? I seem to have the adobe plug-ins (I'm on WinXP Pro) but can't remember if I

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-23 Thread Uli Maasmeier
Hello Peter! I also use WinXP since 1 or two months; and whilst i have an analog clock made of svg on my desktop, i know that IE 6.0 hasn?t support for SVG installed yet, i had to make an install form adobe... Opera doesn?t render the clock neither before nor now. BAD NEWS is that what u wanted?

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-23 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:57:20 -0400, Peters Micheal A Contr GSI/SCBN wrote: I'm just having trouble visualizing how I need to construct the CSS under it to get the visually preferred tree structure. We discussed this on the CSS-D list ages ago, and were forced to conclude that it couldnt be

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-23 Thread James Ellis
Hi all I have no idea what an Org chart is but I guess we are talking about graphing or tree views of some sort. I've done some cool stacked bar graphs in CSS with inline style - but I provide a plain text version as well (given that I use red and green on the bars). Peter F's question asked