Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)

2004-10-27 Thread Lindsay Evans
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:32:56 +1000, Jason Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did I miss anything imprtant? Yes. A 'z' in: http://www.mezoblue.com/ :) -- Lindsay Evans http://lindsayevans.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

[WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread john
So, what do others think? A. "skip to content" B. "skip to main content" C. "skip navigation" ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net "content without clutter" Damian Sweeney wrote: Regarding "skip to content" links, I found this article recently about usabi

Re: [WSG] Select form element doesnt validate

2004-10-27 Thread Will Jensen
I had this problem with the Google - prescribed search HTML code. In your case instead of SELECTED:"selected" Try checked:"checked" It solved my Google problem. Also note the CAPS issue. The W3C validator checks for this so SELECTED would not work anyway Maybe the selected:"selected" idea wou

RE: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Mike Foskett
Clarify the destination. So if there is more than one set of content B. otherwise A. mike 2k:)2 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] site: http://www.webSemantics.co.uk -Original Message- From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2004 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [

Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)

2004-10-27 Thread Terrence Wood
congrats! I like your car analogy... ./tdw Jason Foss wrote: Greetings! I penned a bit of a summary of some of the things I learned at WE04, and Sitepoint have published it! http://www.sitepoint.com or straight to the article: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/essentials-modern-web-design Did I miss

ADMIN Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:37:41 +0100, john wrote: > A. "skip to content" > B. "skip to main content" > C. "skip navigation" I think we have strayed way off topic now. Can people please direct replies directly to John? Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core member

[WSG] Strange CSS Problem

2004-10-27 Thread Jamie Lewis
Hi, Dont suppose anyone can give me some help with some strange CSS behaviour in Firefox and Opera (Not Opera6 though, works fine). http://www.eyota.net The left hand menu initially loads so it sits half way up the header (it stops in the middle of the image and skip's the two divs that are in b

RE: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Aaron Pollock
"Skip Navigation" because it's conventional. Oh, and hello, this is my first post :) Aaron Pollock -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: 27 October 2004 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Reque

Re: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem

2004-10-27 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Sorry i cant help No time to check - too many uni assessments. Just wanted to say... that is a damn nice bug you got yourself there! I would guess you used absolute positioning somewhere and thats having a party and your page is the dance floor... I never liked abs positioning... But I am pro

Re: ADMIN Re: [WSG] skip to content

2004-10-27 Thread john
Lea de Groot wrote: > I think we have strayed way off topic now. My apologies. I thought it was on-topic with Web standards. ~john ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem

2004-10-27 Thread Jamie Lewis
nah you'r right, ive used ab's. its solved loads of other problems i had before i discovered this one. But my CSS isnt amazing so it sort of leaves me stuck :-( Jamie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Stratford Sent: 27 October 2004 11:

RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem

2004-10-27 Thread Mark Voss
Hi, Try this: #leftmenu - replace "position:absolute; left:0px;" with: "float: left;" #pagebody - remove "clear:both;" Regards, Mark Voss ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guide

RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem

2004-10-27 Thread Jamie Lewis
Thats the one, cheers Mark! Jamie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Voss Sent: 27 October 2004 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem Hi, Try this: #leftmenu - replace "position:absolute; left:0px;" with: "

Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)

2004-10-27 Thread Jason Foss
Oops - I'll get that fixed. Keen eye! Thanks! On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:18:59 +1000, Lindsay Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:32:56 +1000, Jason Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did I miss anything imprtant? > > Yes. A 'z' in: > http://www.mezoblue.com/ > > :) > > -- >

Re: [WSG] skip to content

2004-10-27 Thread Manuel González Noriega
john wrote: So, what do others think? A. "skip to content" B. "skip to main content" C. "skip navigation" D. Putting content first, navigation later and a using a "Skip to navigation" link -- Manuel trabaja para Simplelógica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicación en la web.

Re: [WSG] skip to content

2004-10-27 Thread Terrence Wood
Hi Aaron, Welcome to the list. I'm about to disagree with your , please don't take it personally, it's just another POV =). "skip navigation" may be convention, but apparently the preference of actual screen reader users is "main content" or similar (based on some research I have read and user te

RE: [WSG] skip to content

2004-10-27 Thread Mike Pepper
I tend to adopt your consideration, Terrence. Tab into http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/ and you're presented with 'menu navigation' then 'content' links. I don't bother elaborating since it's patently obvious what they do since they're links. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTEC

[WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?

2004-10-27 Thread Kristof Rutten
Hi, Semantical question. I have a list of sportscenters I need to display. I used to do this in a table layout. but how do I do this in semantically correct CSS/XHTML ? - | pic1 | address1 | - | pic2 | address2 | . . . | pic x | addressx |

Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?

2004-10-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
There's probably no *one* really "correct" way of doing this, but off the top of my head, two ideas would be: 1) make it an unordered list with addresses, and use CSS to leave enough padding on the left and stick the image in there as a background 2) use a definition list, with the image as DT a

Re: [WSG] two column IE issues - SOLVED

2004-10-27 Thread Darren Wood
Darren Wood wrote: IE completely wrecks my design, refusing to float the sidenav to the right. Any ideas how I could possibly fix this? [NOTE: this thread is likely to bore most of you so please send responses offlist, and I'll send the solution at the end once one presents itself.] Hey all, Th

[WSG] that darn IE

2004-10-27 Thread Ted Drake
Here's a question that I haven't seen mentioned very often. probably because form elements normally make the strong-willed folks quiver and those of us that are a bit weaker throw up our arms and scream for our mommies. So, here it is. We have select boxes that show the entire word on firefox,

Re: [WSG] that darn IE

2004-10-27 Thread Jason Foss
I see what you mean. What happens if you set overflow to visible? On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:55:33 -0700, Ted Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a question that I haven't seen mentioned very often. probably because form > elements normally make the strong-willed folks quiver and those of us

Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin Futter
While I agree with the idea of clarifying the destination, I disagree with the logic of your choice here. The pronunciation issues with A are significant enough to warrant B as the first choice. Cheers, Kevin On 27/10/04 6:48 PM, "Mike Foskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clarify the destinati

Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?

2004-10-27 Thread Trovster
I would do the following - http://trov.ath.cx/comm/~test/WSG/sportscenters.html The reason for the hard line breaks in the address is because it is part of the content, so when styles are removed, it still has the appropriate structure. ** The di

[WSG] A little CSS question

2004-10-27 Thread Indranil Dasgupta
Hi, Is it possible to have an img tag imediately after a ul tag. If not, what are the alternatives? Is it possible to have more than on float right, float left tags, and are there any alternatives. Is the display:block-inline supported? Can you guys comment on the design of troidus.com Thanks In

Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?

2004-10-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Trovster wrote: I would do the following - http://trov.ath.cx/comm/~test/WSG/sportscenters.html My option nr 2) then ;-) Agree, the line breaks in this case can be argued as being part of the content (as we still don't have anything like the line element in xhtml2) Patrick H. Lauke __

Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?

2004-10-27 Thread Trovster
Yes, your option, just marked-up completely and hopefully correctly! On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:03:23 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trovster wrote: > > I would do the following - http://trov.ath.cx/comm/~test/WSG/sportscenters.html > > My option nr 2) then ;-) > > Agree, the

Re: [WSG] A little CSS question

2004-10-27 Thread Susan R. Grossman
> Is it possible to have an img tag imediately after a ul tag. No it's not valid code If not, > what are the alternatives? I'm not sure why you're using an image instead of sytled text here (though it's perfectly fine to do so and looks good, if it's text though, styling it is usually the pre

Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Terrence Wood
ah yes! one might think A is a trip to nivarna ;-) ./tdw On 2004-10-28 1:32 PM, Kevin Futter wrote: While I agree with the idea of clarifying the destination, I disagree with the logic of your choice here. The pronunciation issues with A are significant enough to warrant B as the first choice. Chee

[WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-27 Thread Damian Sweeney
Hi folks, I'm having some trouble with a series of questions in a questionnaire that I'd like to put in an ordered list. I'd like to use and to mark up each question, thereby separating them easily for people with assistive devices. However, I'd also like to keep the original look and feel pr

Re: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-27 Thread Clayton Lengel-Zigich
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:25:29 +1000, Damian Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > Firstly, am I using fieldset and legend in the correct semantic manner? > > Many thanks, > It was my understanding that fieldsets and legends were only to be used with forms to make them easier to use.

Re: [WSG] that darn IE

2004-10-27 Thread Steven . Faulkner
I tried overflow and other things on both the select and option elements, didn't seem to make any difference in IE with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information & Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613)

RE: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Kathryn Ross
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[WSG] IE misbehaving with a list

2004-10-27 Thread Anura Samara
Using that great resource, the Listutorial (http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/roll_master.htm), I thought I would rework some navigation with a CSS-styled list, instead of images and rollovers. However, just using the basic version of the CSS rollover lists, I'm finding that MS IE 5 is addin

Re: [WSG] IE misbehaving with a list

2004-10-27 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:43:35 +1000, Anura Samara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, just using the basic version of the CSS rollover lists, I'm > finding that MS IE 5 is adding a gap between list items if I add any > font declarations anywhere eg. adding font-family and/or font-size to > the con

Re: [WSG] IE misbehaving with a list

2004-10-27 Thread Anura Samara
Kay Nice idea, I had thought of that but forget to implement it, but it makes no difference anyway. I have made the changes, removing all whitespace within the containing DIV, and MSIE 5 still insists on putting some extra space in there! Any more ideas? I know I can't be the first person to hit

Re: [WSG] IE misbehaving with a list

2004-10-27 Thread Anura Samara
Next time I should hit Google a lot harder, and also remember who my CSS friends are! I have just found this handy tip on Andy Budd's site >== http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2003/12/css_crib_sheet_1_gaps_between_vertical_nav_elements_in_ie5/ Setting the containing LI to "display: inline" has f