Re: [WSG] Javascript - the last piece of the puzzle
russ - maxdesign wrote: The Sydney Web Standards meeting went well tonight with about 33 people present. I just want to say thank you to the Sydney crew for making a Ballarat boy feel welcome. You guys really have an excellent atmosphere and the meeting was a lot of fun - as was the sojourn at the pub afterwards. If anyone gets the chance to attend an interstate meet, I highly recommend it It was one of Richards first ever presentations, and he handled himself exceptionally well under some heavy crossfire from Sydney members. Thank you Richard! As Russ said, Richard's presentation was excellent. Informative and very interesting. For Melbournites (or interstate visitors) interested in JS and the DOM used in accessible and interesting ways, don't forget the Melbourne meeting on this Thursday - nice segue! 6:00pm - Informal drinks and chat at BearBrass (nearby pub in Southgate) 6:30-6:45pm - Gather in foyer of IBM Tower 7:00-7:10pm - Introductions, Welcome from organizers 7.10pm-7.40pm Cameron Adams JavaSt is not a dirty word: Creating accessible, interactive web pages. 7:40-8:00pm Questions, discussion, arguments... We've quite a few RSVPs, so this looks to be a hot topic. Check the site for further details: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event33.cfm Cheers, Lachlan PS as a personal aside, although I haven't managed to time my Brisbane trip as well as my Sydney trip, I'll be there for the second half of next week. Any folks interested in dinner or drinks Wed-Fri with occasional standards-related conversation, please contact me OFF-list ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?
On Mon, 02 May 2005 18:59:24 +0100, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [01] http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/ [02] http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ Thanks! Not trying to discredit the effort of SOS creator, but it doesn't work for IE 5.2 Mac, it's out of question. Not trying to discredit the effort of MacIE5 creators, but if it doesn't display SOS, it's out of question ;) Seriously - suckerfish dropdowns are probably the best solution for 98%+ of your audience. If you insist on other solution (usually with browser sniffing or requiring javascript to work), you're going to worsen experience of 98% visitors in favor of 2% others. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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[WSG] The mother of all html references?
I've been using this online html reference (http://www.htmlreference.com/) for the past 6 months or so, and so far it's been fine. Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I can take a look? Cole
[WSG] Overlapping footer
I am working on a 2 column layout with a header and footer, with the footer always pushed against the bottom of the page (or at the bottom of the content, if the page content is longer than the available space). http://www.cssweb.co.uk/templatetest2.html I am getting quite close to a solution. I have one problematic issue just now I am looking at. The footer is always at the bottom as you can see. However, when you resize the browser window and make the height of the window smaller, the footer will push up and overlap the content above. How can I make sure the footer will stop exactly at the black 1px border of the #maincontent div which contains the sidebar and the main content? I want this to work without knowing the height of the footer (i.e. if the footer height varies depending on its content the solution still works). I used this article to help with this solution (but not the scripting part): http://www.alistapart.com/articles/footers Thanks, Stephen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?
I use http://www.w3schools.com/a lot. It has a lot of stuff on it for HTML, CSS, even ASP etc. - Original Message - From: Cole Kuryakin - x7m Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:02 PM I've been using this online html reference (http://www.htmlreference.com/) for the past 6 months or so, and so far it's been fine. Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I can take a look? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005
Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?
On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:02:32 +0100, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using this online html reference (http://www.htmlreference.com/) for the past 6 months or so, and so far it's been fine. No, htmlreference.com is full of deprecated elements and attributes. Half of stuff they describe is outdated and on the do-not-use list, examples use presentational HTML, and CSS section seems to be limited to stuff that works in NN4. Footnote explains it all: Excerpted from Mastering Microsoft FrontPage 98 It's been good reference in tagsoup days, but '90s are gone... Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I can take a look? www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Overlapping footer
Stevio wrote:
How can I make sure the footer will stop exactly at the black 1px
border of
the #maincontent div which contains the sidebar and the main content?
Stevio,
I looked at your CSS and all you have to do to make this work is to
change the following:
#footer {
position: absolute;
bottom: 0;
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
background-color: #FF;
width: 75%;
clear: both;
border: 0px solid green;
}
to
#footer {
float: left;
bottom: 0;
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
background-color: #FF;
width: 75%;
clear: both;
border: 0px solid green;
}
It seems to work fine. This way, even if you make the #sidebar or
#maincontent huge, the footer stays put.
Jay
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Re: [WSG] Overlapping footer
Hi Jay,
Thanks for that, but floating the footer left
instead of setting position to absolute, means that the footer is not at the
browser window, which is one of the requirements.
Thanks,
Stephen
- Original Message -
From:
Jay Gilmore
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Overlapping
footer
Stevio wrote:
How can I make sure the footer will stop exactly at the
black 1px border of the #maincontent div which contains the sidebar and
the main content? Stevio, I looked at your CSS
and all you have to do to make this work is to change the
following:#footer { position:
absolute; bottom: 0; padding:
0; margin: 0; background-color:
#FF; width: 75%; clear:
both; border: 0px solid
green;}to#footer { float:
left; bottom: 0; padding:
0; margin: 0; background-color:
#FF; width: 75%; clear:
both; border: 0px solid green;}It seems to work
fine. This way, even if you make the #sidebar or #maincontent huge, the footer
stays put.Jay
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Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?
Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote: I've been using this online html reference (http://www.htmlreference.com/) for the past 6 months or so, and so far it's been fine. Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I can take a look? Cole Molly Holzschlag and Dave Shea both have posted blog entries soliciting such resources and the 100 or so comments offer up a pretty good selection: http://www.molly.com/2005/01/30/outdated-html-guides/#comments http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/08/25/standards_re/comments/ They include a lot of CSS references, but the good HTML references are in there too. Hope that helps, Erik ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?
G'day Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote: Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I can take a look? There's a section on the WSG website for this: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat2.cfm One that's missing, which I use from time to time (I downloaded the XHTML and CSS references) is www.zvon.org It even shows which elements and attributes are appropriate for each DTD (and I use strict 99.9% of the time) Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?
Michael Wilson wrote: This [01], however, does work in NN v6.2.3 on XPPro. According to the Hi, I don't think it works as intented. The nested ULs appear, but NN6 doesn't paint any background, so it is not legible. Re: the Mac fix. This fix is for MSIE 5.2 (OSX), it doesn't fix 5.0 (OS9) and IMO, this is the IE version mostly used by Mac users. Also, the script triggers JS errors in Opera 6.05 so the ULs do not popup, but the most important is that it makes the top level list items *not* accessible. As I said previously, if you want 100% coverage, you will need to get into allot more JavaScript or you can simply link the top level navigation items to a shortened table of contents. In my view, this is the cleanest method as it doesn't require the added script and it's accessible by everything that can follow a link. As I said previously, I'm biased toward this method [1], but so far it seems to be the cleanest one without allot more JavaScript :-) Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com [1] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/demo.asp (I've now added a list of browsers I have tested the technique with) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] javascript/DOM resources
Hi All I'm in the middle of a site reconstruction. The backbone is ready, the style sheets are ready, what's next? The javascript. We are still using a cookie script copyright 1996. I know there are tons of free javascript archives, but they are equally filled with scripts that live in the old days of tag soup. Is there a resource for javascripts that are designed for standards-compliant web sites. An archive of scripts that work with DOM and degrade well in non-javascript enabled browsers? I would love to approach the scripting team and say, can we replace this with this all-new javascript that will make our lives sooo much better? Thanks ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] disappearing element in page
Ingo Chao wrote: Ingo Chao schrieb: Carl Reynolds schrieb: http://hyperbole-software.com/movie-buzz/ http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/disappearingcontent.html And I think the problem (the a. p. menu is disappearing in IE6 and IE5.5 on reload) is triggered when the floated div#center-layout's margin-left: any value em + width:70% exceeds 100%. I just noticed that Bruno Fassino already has some more comprehensive test cases and solutions here http://brunildo.org/test/IE_raf3.html Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Thanks Ingo for your responses. I spent the day yesterday looking at the things you suggested and at brunildo's site to see how they apply to my problem. I agree with you that it looks as if the problem arises when the browser thinks the total width of the page exceeds 100%. That was a great insight I hadn't seen before. I still haven't found a solution to the problem, but have been able to minimize it by changing the right margin of the #center-layout to 0 for IE. This allows the window to get narrower before the scroll bar appears and apparently the width parameter causes it to show some of the background on the right so I'm getting the effect I want. A friend of mine looked at the page on a Mac using OS-X and IE5 and said that the text in the #center-layout (the four paragraphs of text) are left aligned and only extend half way across the #center-layout. Are you seeing anything like this? Thanks again for your help, Carl. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Overlapping footer
Stevio wrote: Hi Jay, Thanks for that, but floating the footer left instead of setting position to absolute, means that the footer is not at the browser window, which is one of the requirements. Thanks, Stephen I see what you mean. I think that you will have to either nest the footer in another div or play with the margin/padding settings. Have fun or torture I 've tried a few things on it myself and to no avail. I'm too busy to figure it out now. Jay
Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?
Hi Kornel, Seriously - suckerfish dropdowns are probably the best solution for 98%+ of your audience. How so? I checked the SOS one level dropdown from htmldog page, it doesn't work for my IE 5.2, on Mac. Strange, the one that Micheal just sent does work. If you insist on other solution (usually with browser sniffing or requiring javascript to work), you're going to worsen experience of 98% visitors in favor of 2% others. I hope this is not the Web Standards purist talking here :P My client wouldn't care what code I use for his site, he only cares that I able to delivery a fully functional and good looking site to him. He hasn't a slightest idea what W3C and Web Standards about, but thinks the statement this site is built with web standards and accessibility in mind I put at the bottom. My question was to find a good solution for my problem, not intending to create a debate that 'mine is better than your' this kind of notion' that anyone in the list might have. Sincerely, tee regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] CSS Cheatsheet
Apologies in case this has been posted before. The CSS cheat sheet is designed to act as a reminder and reference sheet, listing all selectors (as of CSS 2.1) and properties. It includes a visual example of the box model, unit reference for CSS units and the various media types CSS makes allowance for. http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css/css-cheat-sheet/ http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css_cheat_sheet.png Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Cheatsheet
On May 3, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Amit Karmakar wrote: http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css_cheat_sheet.png Neat! Now the desktop pic on my second monitor. ;) -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com -- www.browsehappy.com www.opera.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] DOM tutorials/books?
Are there any good books or tutorials that I can read/follow to learn all about the DOM? thanks in advance! Zulema -- · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Zulema Ortiz Web Designer folio: http://zoblue.com blog: http://blog.zoblue.com browser: http://getfirefox.com · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] max-width/min-width question
I am finding it impossible to get this http://www.dlaakso.com/photographs/adi/ layout, as it is now coded, to work when attempting to use max-width/min-width with it. Any suggestions on what changes need to be made to do so? Thanks. ~david -- http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?
On my windows machine I use XML Standards Library (http://xmlstds.xemantics.com/) - which is basically a CHM file that contains the specs brought down from w3c.org. You also get to grab only the specs that you need (just in case specs such as OWL Web Ontology Language Guide isn't your sorta thing :^) ).On 5/4/05, Bob Kelly Crispen - Web Builders' Toolkit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The voices are telling me Kornel Lesinski said on 5/3/2005 8:41 AM: Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I cantake a look? www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/Yup, the truth is in the specs.Everything else is approximate.It'sworth your time (imho) to iterate through the specs a few times so youcan understand what they're trying to tell you.I also have a copy of http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/ because the XHTML spec is kind of terseabout the old HTML elements.I even keep a copy of the Level 1 and 2 DOM specs around (you can find all these documents on http://www.w3.org/TR/).The DOM specs,especially Level 1, look at first like somebody dropped them on the wayto the printer and picked up the pages in the wrong order, but eventually you'll learn how to access what's in there.--Bob CrispenWeb Builders' Toolkitweb dash toolkit at crispen dot orghttp://web-toolkit.crispen.org/ Don't think it's important to make your website accessible?One visitoreverybody wants to impress is Google.Google is totally blind.**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **-- Cheers,Serdar Kilichttp://weblog.kilic.net/
Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?
I quite like the simplicity of http://htmlhelp.org/. It has a nice list of html 4.0 tags and you can hide deprecated ones. It also has a css reference, but unfortunately it's also not up to date. Damian I've been using this online html reference (http://www.htmlreference.com/) for the past 6 months or so, and so far it's been fine. Can anyone recommend another on-line reference that they prefer so I can take a look? Cole -- Damian Sweeney Learning Skills Adviser (online) Language and Learning Skills Unit Instructional Designer, AIRport Project Equity, Language and Learning Programs University of Melbourne 723 Swanston St Parkville 3010 www.services.unimelb.edu.au/ellp/ www.services.unimelb.edu.au/llsu/ airport.unimelb.edu.au/ ph 03 8344 9370, fax 03 9349 1039 This email and any attachments may contain personal information or information that is otherwise confidential or the subject of copyright. Any unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of any part of it is prohibited. The University does not warrant that this email or any attachments are free from viruses or defects. Please check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening them. If this email is received in error please delete it and notify us by return email or by phoning (03) 8344 9370. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Juicy Studio offline
For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! -- Douglas Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://loadaveragezero.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
There good and cheap. http://www.asmallorange.com/ On May 3, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Douglas Clifton wrote: For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! -- Douglas Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://loadaveragezero.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
Bit OT but in the spirit of a good hosting company I would strongly recommend http://www.segpub.com.au if you are sydney/AU based or even otherwise. Recos: http://www.maniacalrage.net/about/ http://www.zeldman.com/daily/com1201d.html#hosting http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/425/spring-clean-new-home On 5/4/05, Andrew Famiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There good and cheap. http://www.asmallorange.com/ On May 3, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Douglas Clifton wrote: For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! -- Douglas Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://loadaveragezero.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
Bit OT but in the spirit of a good hosting company I would strongly recommend http://www.segpub.com.au if you are sydney/AU based or even otherwise. Recos: http://www.maniacalrage.net/about/ http://www.zeldman.com/daily/com1201d.html#hosting http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/425/spring-clean-new-home On 5/4/05, Andrew Famiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There good and cheap. http://www.asmallorange.com/ On May 3, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Douglas Clifton wrote: For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! -- Douglas Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://loadaveragezero.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
even Media Temple is really good. I know Stopdesign and Praystation are hosted there. http://www.mediatemple.com On May 3, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Amit Karmakar wrote: Bit OT but in the spirit of a good hosting company I would strongly recommend http://www.segpub.com.au if you are sydney/AU based or even otherwise. Recos: http://www.maniacalrage.net/about/ http://www.zeldman.com/daily/com1201d.html#hosting http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/425/spring-clean-new-home On 5/4/05, Andrew Famiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There good and cheap. http://www.asmallorange.com/ On May 3, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Douglas Clifton wrote: For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! -- Douglas Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://loadaveragezero.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline [CLOSED]
Way OT now folks. Please send suggestions to Gez at the email address mentioned on the page (as Douglas correctly asked you to do). P Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
Since a lot of my competitors' names are being mentioned here, I feel justified in plugging my own. Sorry if I'm going over the bounds. I try not to self-promote in these forums. I'm in the hosting business too. http://afpwebworks.com I host on Windows boxes, with ColdFusion, .ASP, php, perl, even good old html works! Databases included are MS SQLServer, MySQL, Access, and you can run it all from a control panel, so you can make changes any time you like without needing to depend on me to do it. You can have as many email accounts as you like, ftp accounts too, and create your own subdomains on the fly if you like. I use that for staging sites or proposals . e.g. on my site http://afpwebworks.com I have http://staging.afpwebworks.com and http://client1.afpwebworks.com and http://client2.afpwebworks.com You can set them up and take them down yourself in minutes without having to need any input from me. And I don't charge additional for each new site or sub-site - only for the disk space and bandwidth you use. You can even register domain names instantly for only $20/year. Check us out: http://afpwebworks.com Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Clifton Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 11:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! -- Douglas Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://loadaveragezero.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
I would recommend www.flexihostings.net.au Great service, been with them for over almost 2 years now. Cheap and reliable! Owned by iiNet, so they have a strong base. No debt. They have a Refugee program, where Gez would get 3 months free, if he tells them about his previous host, and how he is now a server refugee. :) Douglas Clifton wrote: For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the Web developer community for a long time. He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base. I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might have to do so. Support your fellow developers! Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline
My recommendation, www.siteground.com
On 5/3/05, Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would recommend www.flexihostings.net.au
Great service, been with them for over almost 2 years now.
Cheap and reliable!
Owned by iiNet, so they have a strong base.
No debt.
They have a Refugee program, where Gez would get 3 months free, if he
tells them about his previous host, and how he is now a server refugee.
:)
Douglas Clifton wrote:
For those of you who don't know Gez Lemon of Juicy Studio, he has
been an incredible source of information, articles and tips for the
Web developer community for a long time.
He's currently on vacation and his hosting provider has gone and
given him the shaft while he's away from his home-base.
I'd like to ask anyone that can help, or provide suggestions for a
new host he can move to or any other ideas that you can might
have to do so. Support your fellow developers!
Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to
contact him with suggestions.
http://juicystudio.com/
Thank you!
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[WSG] Re: [WSG Announce] Web Essentials 05 Launched
Web Essentials 04 was great - but wasn't there feedback last year regarding a session addressing the commercial benefits of web standards? How will the web standards movement grow if people don't know how to sell the benefits of web standards internally to management and externally to clients? Will the conference be niched as the converted preaching to the congregation? Maybe a specific topic addressing the commercial benefits of Web Standards at WE05 could have been included. Its sort of like - 'great cart - but why do I need a horse'? :) I mean this in a most constructive way. I think Peter, John, Russ et al are doing a great job. Anyone else see a need for a manager level session to provide a range of commercial justifications for adopting webstandards? Chris Dimmock Cogentis Internet Marketing Strategies http://www.cogentis.com.au/ On 5/4/05, Peter Firminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements Building on the success of WE04, Web Essentials returns this September 29 and 30 even bigger and better. Featuring 7 industry leaders in * standards based web design and development * user experience * accessibility * workflow and strategy WE05 will instruct and educate and like no other conference this year. With 22 sessions in two streams over two big days we've got 50% more content than last year, and more than twice the number of international speakers. Most importantly we're totally focussed on practical hands on instruction in XHTML, CSS, AJAX, accessibility, user experience, semantics, microformats and more. http://we05.com/program.cfm The lineup includes * Molly Holszchlag * Eric Meyer * Jeffrey Veen * Tantek Celik * Kelly Goto * Derek Featherstone * Doug Bowman ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: [WSG Announce] Web Essentials 05 Launched
Maybe a specific topic addressing the commercial benefits of Web Standards at WE05 could have been included. I believe there is. 1.30pm, day 1... Brett Jackson, John Horner, David McDonald Panel: Moving your organisation to standards Theme: Strategy Audience: Managers http://we05.com/program.cfm Brett Jackson was my boss at Fairfax Digital for a while. He can translate the business benefits to management until they're begging to throw money at a web standards project :) And then along with John David, that session looks the goods. i cant wait personally. like the blurb said, its a great way to catch up with a lot of people in the industry and exchange these ideas. its not just the presenters i'm paying for when i purchase a ticket. pete ottery ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout
One way you might be able to do this would be to use a little php giving the Content and News changable ID names and then you could control the rest by options in your css. Along the same lines that the central content is displayed or not on this page http://magickdream.com/froglace/ Parker http://webdesign.parkertorrence.com On 5/3/05, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to make a site with the option of 2 or 3 columns. The Nav column (left)and content column (centre) would always be present. The news column on the right would be optional. ___ || || || || | Nav |Content | News | || || || || ---| Does anyone on the list know of a way to make the Content fill the whole space of content and nav when nav is not present? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
