[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-20 Thread Vaughan, Nick
Title: Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Hi Im on annual leave on Thursday 21 July and will be back in the office on Friday the 22nd. This e-mail message and attachments do not necessarily reflect the

Re: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Dragan Simonovic
And what this mean for SEO body, html {display: none!important;} ?On 6/1/05, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: body, html {display: none!important;}

Re: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Ajay Jadhav
Hi, SEO Stands for (Search Engine Otimizationa) --- Dragan Simonovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what this mean for SEO body, html {display: none!important;} ? On 6/1/05, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: body, html {display: none!important;} Thanks/Regards Ajay M Jadhav

RE: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Edward Clarke
If you mean what does body{display:none;} do for SEO? then the answer is not very much. Taking Googlebot and Slurp as examples, they dont parse CSS or script, they want content within the HTML and thats it. Most hidden elements, i.e. white text on white background or display: none; for

[WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay

2005-07-20 Thread Jamie Mason
http://www.blatek.co.uk/blateksatay/ I quite like it, what do you think?

Re: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Dragan Simonovic
Heh, Ajay you make me laugh :D I know what does SEO mean ;) @Eddie: I supposed that but just asked to prove my thought ;)On 7/20/05, Edward Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean "what does body{display:none;} do for SEO?" then the answer is not very much. Taking Googlebot

Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay

2005-07-20 Thread infopre
I like flash satay method, but you can insert a tag image like this example object type="application/x-shockwave-flash data="" width="400" height="300" param name="movie" value="example.swf" / img src="" width="200" height="100" alt="" / /object so browser that doesn't support flash

Re: [WSG] Prototype Framework

2005-07-20 Thread Kris Khaira
I've been using Prototype for the past few weeks. It seemed like the most light-weight JS framework for Ajax. The other frameworks I was considering were: Xajax - http://xajax.sourceforge.net/ Sajax - http://www.modernmethod.com/sajax/ AjaxAC - http://ajax.zervaas.com.au/ JPSpan -

RE: [WSG] Base tag and the selecting of body text in IE

2005-07-20 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi y'all, I've a quick question about the base tag and the selection of body content text. Try selecting body content text on this page in IE6: http://stageaclearn.ngfl.gov.uk/ The site uses a base tag: base href=http://stageaclearn.ngfl.gov.uk/content_files/acl/pages/home.htm; / Yet if

RE: [WSG] Base tag and the selecting of body text in IE

2005-07-20 Thread Edward Clarke
It's an IE bug/feature. A nuisance I have to admit. The BASE tag though??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Foskett Sent: 20 July 2005 10:29 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Base tag and the selecting of body text in IE

Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay

2005-07-20 Thread James Ellis
Hi The idea of the cascading object tag is to place alternate *descriptive* content that reflects the intent of the content the user can't access, rather than a no flash image. HTH James On 7/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so browser that doesn't support flash

Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay

2005-07-20 Thread Joshua Street
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 06:18 -0400, James Ellis wrote: The idea of the cascading object tag is to place alternate *descriptive* content that reflects the intent of the content the user can't access, rather than a no flash image. Is there anything wrong with having an image as an intermediate

Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay

2005-07-20 Thread infopre
Yes, but if you have flash plug-in, you cannot see alternative image. So, the only reason is that when you don't have flash installed, browser shows you image with alternative description. cheers Daniele http://www.gizax.it - Original Message - From: James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay

2005-07-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you have flash plug-in, you cannot see alternative image. So, the only reason is that when you don't have flash installed, browser shows you image with alternative description. But what James is getting at is that from an accessibility and usability point of

[WSG] What not to do for colour blind users

2005-07-20 Thread James Ellis
Hi all I just notice Optus (a phone company in Australia) has a new password reset form... The box below contains a row of random letters. Most of the letters are coloured white, some are highlighted. Please enter ONLY the RED HIGHLIGHTED characters in the order in which they appear in the box

RE: [WSG] Form Builder

2005-07-20 Thread Peter Goddard
Title: Form Builder Hi Erwin I see no issues with client side form validation and web standards, some validation should always be in place when accepting user input. This can either be done on the server (which requires a postback event to be triggered which means at least one round trip to

RE: [WSG] Base tag and the selecting of body text in IE

2005-07-20 Thread Mike Foskett
Ed, do you have a link or a name explaining this IE feature / bug? Regards Mike Mike Foskett Web Standards, Accessibility Testing Consultant Multimedia Publishing and Production British Educational

RE: [WSG] Base tag and the selecting of body text in IE

2005-07-20 Thread Edward Clarke
Not a name exactly but youre entitled to make one up if you wish. Ive had this problem before but a while back. Try: base href="" instead of base href="" / and see how you go. Eddie http://blog.tn38.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Base tag and the selecting of body text in IE

2005-07-20 Thread Mike Foskett
Ed, You're a star. Worked perfectly. Cheers Mike Mike FoskettWeb Standards, Accessibility Testing ConsultantMultimedia Publishing and ProductionBritish Educational Communications and Technology Agency

RE: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Wasn't the original css ( * html body {display;none;} ) meant as a joke to hide all content from IE users? I would simply hate to see someone plop that into their code and scratch their head for the next hour trying to figure out what went wrong. Ted what does

RE: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Edward Clarke
I would like to assume that if anyone fell for that, someone would give them a slap. ;) Edward Clarke ECommerce and Software Consultant TN38 Consulting http://blog.tn38.net Creative Media Centre 17-19 Robertson Street Hastings East Sussex TN34 1HL United Kingdom

RE: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-07-20 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
blink Whut was that? :) /blink Edward Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:

[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Rose
Hello, Does anyone know how to get rid of whitespace at the bottom of the page when using relative positioning on a page that has more than 1 column? Hope that made sense, Josh. Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Re: [WSG] Form Builder

2005-07-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Peter Goddard wrote: Hence, the optimum solution is the have the client browser perform validation BEFORE submission to the server. From a security standpoint always validate user input from an untrusted source to prevent any client side injection attacks. Not just security: some users

[WSG] Unicode in Visual Studio? For xhtml, css ?

2005-07-20 Thread Rebecca Cox
Hi all, I use Visual Studio to author both HTML and CSS and am not sure what is the best encoding option to choose. For HTML it needs to be Unicode/utf-8 but there are 4 different Unicode encodings to choose from! Does anyone use VS and know what a good default option would be?

Re: [WSG] Unicode in Visual Studio? For xhtml, css ?

2005-07-20 Thread Juergen Auer
On 21 Jul 2005 at 9:19, Rebecca Cox wrote: For HTML it needs to be Unicode/utf-8 but there are 4 different Unicode encodings to choose from! Hi Rebecca, I do not use VS, but the encoding is separate, independet from the editor. If you want to create european/english pages with some

Re: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-20 Thread Peter Ottery
Hope that made sense, nup. youre definately going to have to show us an example. if you havent got a liveexample to show, make a really simple example by stripping out everything else and just include some html css within your post. help us to help you! :) On 7/21/05, Josh Rose [EMAIL

[WSG] IE: Suckerfish Popping Under

2005-07-20 Thread Nathan Rutman
I've been working on this thing and I'm kind of stumped. I've tried Google to no avail. Any help on any of these points would be appreciated I'm using a Suckerfish-derived menu system for a new design, and I'm having the following problems in IE: 1) Menu's pop under all other content. A

[WSG] Upcoming events series - World Usability Day !

2005-07-20 Thread Mugur Padurean
Posted with the list administrator guidance and aproval. Hi, I wish to bring to your atention an upcoming series of events to take place all around the world on 3rd of November under the generic name World Usability Day. The goal of these events is to raise awareness of the importance of